AIhasUse @ AIhasUse @lemmy.world

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There is no need to be intellectually dishonest about the point of view of the person you are arguing with. This is what is called a "strawman" argument. If you look back through the thread, you will find that I never even discussed bean purchasing. It is very telling that in order to feel like you have "won" the argument, you must make up things to "be" my point of view. What this means is that the argument that you see yourself as winning is actually against yourself! If you actually had a strong argument, then you wouldn't have to create the thing that it is able to beat. It would actually be able to beat the argument of someone else.

I offered no excuses. I'm not sure what your issue is, but on top of being unfamiliar with basic reasoning skills, there are also some definitional misunderstandings. If English is your second language, then I suggest you find a better translation app to help you interact with people online. If not, then maybe a standard dictionary and some willingness to learn is all you need. Standard definitions of terms is paramount to a constructive conversation.

You being unable to look at the evidence because it is too disturbing doesn't invalidate the evidence. It has become clear that there are lots of fundamentals of debate and reasoning that you are lacking. If this is really something that interests you, then it would be best for you to familiarize yourself with some basics of formal logic and reasoning completely outside of this subject matter, and after that come back and revist this with a more open mind and more equipped to consider the implications of your actions.

If that was a serious comment and you are genuinely concerned about people being able to make comments without degrees and certificates, then I think you really may need to be seeking the expertise of an expert. The way most people are able to interact online is much more open and free. I understand that if you have had extreme trauma or have large underlying problems, then this sort of interaction may be unhealthy for you. Unfortunately, it is up to you to take the steps to put yourself into a safer environment. If not, then things may get worse for you before they get better. I hope you are able to find the help you need if that is really the case.

This is true. You seem to make your most accurate sentences when you keep them short.

I did, you said it was bad, and then praised yourself. This is exactly what happens when you point out to a crackhead that they are down to 4 teeth, they just say "whatever bro, not related, you so dumb" and then go on thinking they're so clever for always outsmarting everyone with their lightning fast logic skills.

Your comment history is still there.

If you decide to educate yourself, then you will be surprised. There is endless video proof from over the course of many years. The only thing missing is your willingness to look.

Never. The future of the planet and the well-being of those less fortunate will always matter more to me than the sensitive feelings of the selfish and willfully ignorant.

You are right, but I can make a very educated guess based on the deprivety that you insist on trying to defend. If you have been pretending this whole time and you actually have concern for the planet and for the well-being of others, then great. It's a strange thing to troll about, but that would be much better than if you actually hold the opinions you are pretending to.

Paying someone to do immoral actions that harm innocent animals and the environment that we all are forced to share. That is the connection.

It's easy to go back and read this. You left the topic without responding. You made some joke about psychiatry because you couldn't come up with anything that made sense as a rebuttal to what I said. I'm not surprised, this is par for the course when people want to try to "win" an argument without actually having anything they feel makes sense. It's fine, you do you, I've said my piece and you couldn't say yours because you haven't found it yet.

I've got my earworm in you, and maybe eventually, as you get older, you will occasionally consider it. If not you, then maybe someone who reads this. If anyone out there decides to be a bit more thoughtful in the way they live, then great. I also have been helped because I put myself in a position where maybe I would hear something intelligent that improved my stance. You failed to deliver, but that's out of my hands, I didn't expect much more out of you in this case since people like you always fail in this regard. Doesn't stop me from trying, though. Maybe eventually someone in your camp will finally do something impressive.

Try and find out the standard practices of the factory farm where the meat from your local area comes from. They don't make it easy to find out, and if you do find out, it is currently much worse than what was happening 15 years ago. There is a good reason for this, too. In most regards, the rule is that they can't be too much worse than the average behavior. This is causing a horrific drift to worse and worse practices.

There is almost no push back on this because the average person is so reluctant to admit that they may be supporting something so vile that they stand behind whatever it is these farms do without having any actual idea of what's going on. Nobody is checking in on these places and coming out saying alls good other than the people making a ton of money off them.

If you don't know for sure that you get animal products from good places, then it is almost guaranteed that you don't. If you don't care to even find out, then you are the normal consumer, and you have accepted that your pleasure matters more than the treatment of the animals in them. You are not the minority. You are the merciless masses with no morality in this regard.

I see the people consuming the meat and animal products as consumers. I see the impact they have on the planet as ecological impact. I don't see how this is off topic.

If someone pays someone else $1,000,000 to kill their ex-girlfriend, is only the murderer morally responsible?

Oh, you said you're right, I guess that proves it then, well played.

The factory farming industry has very significant ecological impacts. In addition to the extreme suffering and misery that it causes to sentient beings. It's really a lose-lose.

This is what most people are paying to have happen every day.

Yeah. It does suck to see what the average person chooses to spend their life paying people to do to animals. It especially sucks if you are one of the people paying them to do it.

The fact that you habitually pay people to do that animals is what causes them to do this to future animals. You understand this. It tells something that your best defense is this to excuse your actions.