5BC2E7 @ 5BC2E7 @lemmy.world

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That’s the usual sentiment in social media comments but in reality most people don’t behave this way. We need to live in the real world if we want to change it. Living a delusion and expecting others to support it is not going to help in reality.

I mean until recently more people used to die in car accidents than by gunfire. It was the leading cause for kids. I am not advocating for lack of concern. But making cars less useful it’s not a solution since people still have to commute long distances in some countries. You have to weigh the benefits against the costs. If you believe that pedestrians should always be prioritized then you should be advocating for a complete ban on cars

you keep changing the subject. the claim is that "capitalism cannot innovate" I give clear obvious examples and you keep rejecting them on the basis of your lack of understanding on the topic. i.e. you say word2vec is useless or somehow related to openAI. the vaccines might be more in your domain knowledge since you didn't call them useless and try to confuse the topic. I'm not here to educate you so if you use ignorance as an argument I'm just going to point it out and move on.

to claim that you can't have innovation with capitalism anymore is not even related to claiming that you need capitalism to innovate. are you really that extremist in your reasoning? it's either completely useless or absolutely required?

I guess i should not waste my time with you and you can keep your loser/doomer mentality.

ClosedAI didn’t invent word2vec. There are so many examples of innovation being driven or enabled by capitalism that it’s really strange that people assert capitalism cannot innovate and when given examples they reject then. Are mrna vaccines also useless?

I was responding to the claim that “capitalism cannot innovate “ i am aware that innovation generally is not the goal but that is not the point i am contesting.

ok, I don't see why you could not create something "useless" if that's all you need to get funding... openAI didn't have microsoft. startups that have "useless" ideas don't "have people" either. they have innnovations (or useless ideas according to you) . Most people with an opinion on the topic should be able to understand the value of word2vec and form an opinion on the vailidty of your perspective.

if it's so useless why have you not created a similar sham to get billions in funding? is word2vec and similar breakthroughs also non-innovative or shams in your views?

the claim is that American capitalism no longer innovates

innovation is not going bankrupt and clearing the way for another company. control and innovation are not even remotely close.

It’s neither because that’s actually a proven strategy.

It will help with pedestrian accidents but it will also be terrible for driving since you cannot reduce the distance between cities/commute length

Did someone manage to uninvent LLMs and the innovations that came shortly before like transformers? EDIT: ah i see that people are gatekeeping the innovations. so are attention networks also "barely useful"? if so why aren't you guys improving upon it or creating another sham if it's so meaningless and just smoke you should be able to get a billion in investments.

They can and they do innovate regardless of how much you might dislike them.

As a counter example there are fields like machine learning where there is a lot of “capitalist” innovation

It’s the reverse. Companies get in trouble for agreeing to not poach employees from each other.

you must be pretty dense if you expect me to respond after I said I'll not comment further.

they obviously mean their financial security.

unfortunately too many people use that label for anyone that doesn't agree with their opinions. it's unfortunate because fascism is a real concern so we should not dillute the term.

I think that the major issue is that they were paying a one time fee for whatever rights they claimed about the biometrics. They should be paying monthly fees instead.

So collateral damage is just as bad as putting a baby inside an oven?

That’s a funny way to say you have more moral clarity than the Red Cross.