420blazeit69 [he/him] @ 420blazeit69 @hexbear.net

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Russia has won, though. They have taken the separatist parts of Ukraine and cannot be removed. So the choices are:

1. Keep grinding poor Ukranians into hamburger and go to the bargaining table later, with a weaker position; or
2. Go to the bargaining table now and get the best deal you can.

That's how you know it didn't just crash

They Lin Blow'd his ass out of the sky

Let's see whatever you got

"Cartoon villain" here means "a villain who is just intrinsically evil and does evil things as a result." Contrast this with real people, who generally have material or ideological motivational for the actions they take.

The left views NATO as evil not because it's full of cartoon villains, but because it is an organization that consciously, due to material and ideological motivations, chooses to immiserate the global south for the benefit of its constituent countries' ruling classes.

most people of the left or right can see the situation for what it is

I couldn't disagree more. In this thread I have someone telling me Ukraine is currently pushing Russia back despite the front not moving appreciably for nearly a year now. It's also common to hear Putin described as a mustache-twirling villain who just woke up one day and said "I will conquer the whole of Ukraine in three days," a take similarly detached from reality.

Do you know what an example is? What about an analogy?

Should take you no time at all to source your claim, then.

Putin reportedly said. “But if I wanted to, I could take Kiev in two weeks.”

Besides the issue of not being able to verify this was actually said, "if I wanted to I could take Kiev in two weeks" is a lot different from "this entire operation will be over in three hours." "If I wanted to" in fact implies taking Kiev was not a goal, which aligns with it not being officially stated as a goal.

That was never a stated (or likely even an unstated) goal of Russia.

If Erik Prince marched Blackwater through some American cities and -- instead of sending the U.S. military to start a hot war on its own soil -- American leadership pressured Prince and Blackwater to go home, would you be calling the president weak for not turning Virginia into a battlefield?

And what were those conditions Russia stated as its aims at the beginning of the war?

Delusions like "a 3 hour special military operation"

Yes, you have deluded yourself into thinking Russia said this. I guess reddit said Russia said it, so that's basically the same thing, right?

And tell me more about your thoughts on countries that assassinate their own citizens without due process. What kind of countries do that?

Do you think I'm talking about the USSR, or about how American propaganda cultivates the mentality of "they are wrong no matter what they do"?

Now they're clearly the 2nd strongest military in Ukraine.

Delusions like this are sending Ukranians to pointless deaths right now.

The worst part is you will never stop to consider the implications of being so wrong on this when the war is finally resolved (with Russia and Ukraine in basically the same territories as now). Instead, you'll toss this one in the "history" pile with Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc., you know, the wars where you tell yourself you would have seen through the propaganda had you witnessed it in real time. Then you'll cheerlead the next war because It's A Good One This Time.

Taiwan hasn't even been "democratic" (in the sense of "murder all political opponents to the left of Reagan for 40 years and then start letting people vote for the party that did this") for more than a few decades, so even at face value this barely counts.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Taiwan)

You want more of them?

You claim they started with tractors. This is utter nonsense; the AFU started the war as a legitimate military, especially after it took the decade following the Minsk agreements to arm up in anticipation of this war.

You also claim they are pushing Russia back despite the front not moving appreciably in the past year, even during the latest vaunted counteroffensive.

then this will just further enforce option that russia can not be trusted to do anything it says and that putin is weak and threatened

If they let him live, they're weak. If they kill him, they're weak.

During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

Jokerfication: when you kind of pity someone for being this propagandized, but laugh at them because it's pretty funny