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  • It was a joke, a meme, nothing more, meant to amuse. No promotion intended.

  • Yep, same πŸ˜‚... except that's my mom πŸ˜‚.

  • Luckily, none of us will be there.

  • It's a meme dude, it's a play on poster from the early 2000's about pirating media.

  • I was a forums guy back then. We did pick on each other, make stupid jokes on each other's expenses, but it wasn't taken to heart... like contruction workers roasting each other all day, that was mostly it πŸ˜‚.

  • That's a bad example, because at that point Yugoslavia couldn't have existed without Tito – he was an extremely authoritarian figure that cracked down on any sort of controversial thought hard.

    You obviously never lived in Yugoslavia. I have. It was nothing like that. Western media presented him like every other dictator there is out there, which couldn't be further from the truth. Benevolent dictator, yes, that one he might have been, but an iron fisted one that went after everyone that so much as whispered something he didn't like? No, that's just not true.

    Having an intelligent dictator as the unifying force isn't a particularly good strategy, and Yugoslavia was bound to fail without an authority forcing it to stay together.

    That might be true to an extent. Slovenia and Croatia didn't like the federation, especially Sloveina... and yes, they were kinda forced into the federation after WWII. I would agree that Slovenia might have been better off if she was allowed to leave the federation. She should never have been a part of the federation anyway.

    Croatia had a different problem. They wanted to be in the federation, but wanted to lead it. Tito had to balance. He was Croatian, so he had to put the capital in Serbia and pick most of the leading figures from the Serbs.

    You have to understand, these regions were always riddled with nationalst wars. This was a chance for everyone to live peacefully, compromises had to be made. And we did live peacefully... up to a point.

    Yugoslavia also wasn't exactly as "communist" as other communist countries, they allowed private ownership of property and business and relied a lot on surrounding capitalist countries to have a decent standard of living and economy.

    Yes, Yugoslavia was socialist, and that was also up to an extent (as mentioned, private ownership and other things).

    Though, the idea was to be completely autonomous. The relying on capitalist countries part was supposed to be a temporary solution. And things were heading in the right direction (more or less... not saying things couldn't have been done better), but tides shifted when Tito died and everything started falling appart. I could elaborate in more detail if you'd like, but I feel like it's enough for this comment.

  • That requires a different mindset and (maybe) a different level of eveolution. Food is free, you take what you need. Services are free, if your house needs something fixed, you call the adequate people, they do the job, that's it. Same for healthcare, you just go to the doctor, no bill, you just leave (we used to have that around here). Tech products are free, you take what you need (TV, stereo, phone, PC, etc.). You go to work and do the same as everyone else, do your job and go home.

    This is a very simplified version and as I said, it requires a different mindset. We're not used to that right now, it's alien to us.

  • I memorized in 3rd grade or whatever my multiple tables, but I never trust 7 x 8.

    Lol, that's why I picked it πŸ˜‚. I hate 7 x 8 as well πŸ˜‚.

    No I have to take it as 7 x 7 (49) + 7 (1 + 6), to get 56.

    That's how I do it as well πŸ˜‚, 7 x 7 + 7, I never remebered 56 πŸ˜‚. Or 8 x 8 - 8, either way works for me πŸ˜‚.

  • There are a lot of benefits to it, like no real central leadership (more like central steering, not really iron fisted dictators which is what most implementations of it turned out to be), abolishing the monetary system (if implemented all the way), communes decide for themselves, good free healthcare, people are at the center of the system, not money/profit, etc.

  • We did try that... derailing is what we got.

  • Wow... didn't actually know that... sad πŸ˜”.

  • Derail the conversation... OK, now I know you're just parroting what others have told you all your life.

  • Communism and socialism are primarily social orders, not economic ones. Yes, there must be an economic order in place, but as a derivative of the social order, to serve the social order and make it better, to grow and mature. That is not the case with democracy and capitalism.

  • Yes, there was a war, but there were a lot of factors that contributed to that, including the US medling in internal affairs. In general, up until the death of Tito, everything was pretty much OK. The turmoils began after his death.

  • The video is kind of interesting... yes, I remember those days, and yes, there was a lot less bickering and fighting online.