‘Guilty until proven innocent’: Chinese firm challenges US law on Uygur forced labour

State Department Lawyers Concluded Insufficient Evidence to Prove Genocide in China - FP

Creepy mfs
Thanks, I collect these
No shit.
- Yeah no shit, If no genocide is going on obv you won't have sufficient evidence
That's a dead link
- Heres the original, I'll check and update the post when I find an alternative
  https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/02/19/china-uighurs-genocide-us-pompeo-blinken/
  Edit: Archive works again.

The "guilty until proven innocent" part highlights a tactic to push back on manufactured claims of genocide paired with smears of genocide denial: genocide is a formally defined crime, just like murder. Just like murder, you start with a presumption of innocence -- that is, you start by denying the accusation, and it is on the accuser to prove what happened.

In cases like the Holocaust (or Palestine today) you have a mountain of evidence. You have countless eyewitnesses backed by film, sometimes video, and almost always official statements or internal documents showing intent.

In China you have significant motivation and credibility questions about the much smaller number of witnesses, you don't have anything like the photographic documentation of the Holocaust, you have some blurry satellite photos of... something despite the U.S. having spy satellites that can read a license plate, and your official statements (that are themselves backed by significant evidence) are about combating radicalization through development.

In short, there is actually a live question about the credibility and weight of the evidence. You do have to engage with the evidence and not simply take the accusation at face value, just like you would at a murder trial.

They need to learn from sodastream how to market unfair and unequal employment conditions.

- I never mentioned Ninestar. Most of us in MENA don’t trust US/NATO reports, they are serial liars. Various Muslim countries as well as the Organization of Islamic Cooperation visited the region and didn’t find anything nefarious. Plus, we can see clearly in the ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestine how much they really care.

Maybe don't use slaves in your factories if you do not want to be black listed it's that simple 💅

The whole issue is that they don't use slaves in the their factories (as far as anyone can tell), but they're being black listed anyway, so no, it's not that simple.
- Do you have a good source for this? I lean towards that opinion as well, but i don't have any direct sources.
Then why does US law explicitly allow slave labour? Do they blacklist themselves as well?
- Yes everyone on the list is black.
Well, it's not that easy though, is it. You cannot prove a negative. So if I accused you of some sickening murder rape robbing spree where you harmed 20 people and by law it was on you to prove that you didn't do it, you'd be fucked because you couldn't prove that something isn't true.
I mean, screw this og so poor multi billion company and their ~~worthless pieces f shit~~ laser printers, yet I am wary of the increasing tendency internationally to flip "in dubio pro reo" on it's head.
Have you considered not watching child pornography? It's really easy, just stop watching it. Simple.
- What are you even trying to say?
Didn't Volkswagen hire an independent inspector who found no evidence of slavery labour in their supply chain?
Maybe don't regurgitate empire propaganda uncritically if you want people to take you seriously it’s that simple 💅
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