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Japanese disaster prevention X account can’t post anymore after hitting API limit - The issue has arisen after major Tsunami warnings have been issued in areas of Japan following a strong earthquake

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Japanese disaster prevention X account can’t post anymore after hitting API limit - The issue has arisen after major Tsunami warnings have been issued in areas of Japan following a strong earthquake::undefined

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How about avoiding commercial platforms when it comes to vitally important official communication?
- They do, all phones get an emergency alert and tvs display a message. Twitter was another vector to spread the word out.
  
  Well. Then they should tell those people who still use X that this is an unreliable source. For anything else it already is, anyway.
- Problem is that no noncommercial platform would ever have the same coverage as a commercial one like X. People simply would not see the necessity to install it until it's too late.
  
  Could always go the route of an amber alert-like system being primary and then pipe the same msg to their secondary commercial platforms (like X). I'm not privy on the details but it sounds irresponsible to rely on X primarily/solely.
  
  Imagine if the only alert of the impending death wave was some federated lemmy server which was having a few network problems that day.
- Kind of like the amber alert system?
- The thing is, they communicate where people's at. People gotta move
  
  People will move if they learn that their lives are at stake by using X.
Why governments would ever use a private service for critical use baffles me.
Create your own emergency notification system!
- Japan has various earthquake notification systems. Tweets are just one more way to get the information to the people on a platform they use.
- They have one, but you also want information to be where people are. Especially if where people are is full of misinformation and rumours.
- NERV isnt owned by gov and:
  Luckily, the creators of the NERV App, Gehirn Inc, have created an app-based alternative for users to get information in real-time, as well as running a Mastodon account.
- It makes a lot of sense to post where the people are. Roll your own and note the people need your app/etc. granted, everyone is reading X on their smartphone and I’m 100% positive that Japan has the same kind of emergency broadcast system that we have in North America, but again that’s not meant for lots of messages, where a social networking site is.
- Create your own emergency notification system!
  Those never turn out well.
  Running their own mastodon instance should be viable though.
  
  I remember seeing that they did have a fediverse account? This seems related to that
  Yup see here:
  https://lemmy.ca/post/3167523
  It's also in the article linked above:
  Luckily, the creators of the NERV App, Gehirn Inc, have created an app-based alternative for users to get information in real-time, as well as running a Mastodon account.
It's almost like trying to run the world on social media was a shit tier idea.
- It was a good way to offload responsibility for something actually working.
  With social media the unreliability card has been played (by us, asocial nerds, killjoys and neckbeards) and beaten (by them, normal sane social successful people) 10+ years ago, so even when it's a serious role being discussed, that card can't be played again.
  
  It worked pretty well for what it was created to do, then corporations and governments thought they could profit off of it. I assume they were also concerned that people were starting to talk about things they didn't want people to talk about, like their penchant for buying and selling children.
Why is a critical service like disaster precention using an unreliable service like Twitter?
- It's probably one of numerous ways they try and reach people. Wouldn't be surprised if they have it set up to spam alerts out through various mechanisms including social media. It's just that one platform is now complete dogshit. Maybe this failure will hasten Twitter's decline in Japan.
- Why not? Wouldn’t you want information going out on every available service? They likely have info going out on Facebook as well.
- Let me just pull out the old Pidgeon
I think the replies to this post really captures Lemmy's energy and I love it.
Time to switch to mastodon.
- I'm surprised they're not on Mastodon. Since Japan is actually more attuned to Mastodon than Twitter.
  Also doesn't Japan hate the letter X?
  
  Have you actually seen Japan social media usage? They're like the second largest Twitter market in the world. Why would they be more attuned to Mastodon vs Twitter?
@L4s Just FYI the NERV app mentioned on the article is not government official. (Althought I believe it uses government oficial APIs for earthquake detection)
- That’s a bot account BTW. There’s a flag next to the name to indicate that but I guess it’s not visible on mastodon.
  
  Yeah, it just added automatically when hitting Reply here on masto. TIL that if you delete the @ mention, it still becomes a thread :)
Holy shit, didn't know there is an actual Nerv created by an organisation named Gehirn. I mean, good what they are doing, just hope, that Gehirn doesn't get around to do the instrumentality project. Otherwise we will get problems with angels
Didn't they set up their own Mastodon instance? Hopefully they announced it nationwide so they could get as many people as possible on it.
Mastodon is a thing and they will own their instance.
- Fun fact: Germany has a mastodon instance and is using it.
Have multiple accounts and rotate through them with each post. But then you have to make sure all of your followers are following all accounts. It's a shitty workaround but it's a shitty platform to begin with.
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- One likely reason they're still on X is so those that didn't get the memo to use their app or otherwise can't still can still get alerts. Switching to multiple accounts would require people who likely wouldn't notice to follow the others, and those that would do that would hopefully have downloaded the app. And yes, if a person isn't noticing they need to get the app they likely won't notice a critical alert, but when you're dealing with people's lives everything counts.
- Right, because it's not on the platform to remain how it was. It's now the users' responsibility to completely change how they interact with the service so they can have the same functionality.
Great work Elon ! Now Twitter's service has indirectly impacted the life of some people
did they name themselves after the guys from NGE or is that Organisation from NGE named after them?
So the Governments are going to start coming after corpoprations right?
Evangelion?
Countries should have their own Mastodon instances. Then again, you can't trust governments.
The Evangelion app name is pure gold.
Fuck X and Musk.
- What Evangelion app?
  
  NERV is the name of the major organization in Evangelion. Gehirn Inc, the creator of this app, is the name of the predecessor to NERV in NGE. The font and red design are also the same.
  Edit: Seems like the creator is a huge NGE fan and just went with it.
Society if people read the article:
- Aseptic lawns ? glass & metal buildings ? flying cars ? Surefire way of preventing me from reading any future article
- That's ugly and scary, use this instead
  
  That looks like it supports a few dozen people, maybe?

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