Nikki Haley doesn't cite slavery as cause of the Civil War after question at campaign stop
Nikki Haley doesn't cite slavery as cause of the Civil War after question at campaign stop
She responded it was about “basically how the government was going to run."
Former Texan here. Bring up the fact (and it is a fact) that the creation of Texas and its subsequent fight for independence was 100% slavery. Enjoy the fireworks.
Texas "was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits-- a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which [Texas] people intended should exist in all future time"
Gee, what a hard question to figure out from historical sources, guess we'll never know what they were thinking...
It is a mystery.
Nimarata Nikki Randhawa doesn't want to use her real name and Rafael Edward Cruz doesn't either.
Some family values. What are they trying to hide from us?
She's gone by Nikki forever, and her married name is Haley.
There's a ton of legitimate reasons to criticize her - let's stick with those.
Though honestly I'm probably going to vote in the Republican primaries this round to vote for her over Trump. I'm confident the Dems of the ballot will be people I can live with, so I might as well try to influence the Republican ticket.
Especially because I live in a state that's voting GOP no matter what.
In fairness she’s married to Michael Haley. It was only the right wingers that insisted on calling Obama Barrack Hussein.
She knows where her racist, lost cause bread is buttered.
It's not a lost cause for the candidates. These fuckers can loan their campaigns money at 20% interest legally and just pocket their contributors' cash.
They can also write books and easily make money there too.
It's a cash grab.
Aside from the obvious racist subtext to her answer, it's pretty shocking how completely incapable she is of stringing a coherent sentence together.
The freedoms and what people could and couldn't do
How old are you??
Also
FREEDOM TO DO WHAT, NIKKI? FREEDOM TO DO WHAT
The freedom to have the freedom to tell people about freedom and the freedom you have.
"Fweedom"
She doesn't know. She's a moron.
Or she does know but wishes to spread willful ignorance for power
"Basically how the government was going to be run..." in regards to WHAT, Nikki?!?
If Nikki Haley is having a townhall in your area please take the time out of your day to ask her this question. She should be required to answer this everywhere she goes.
It's like everyone who tries to defend the Rebellion has never read the CSA Constitution. It's pretty obvious it was about slavery.
The worst part is that she seems to be saying that she knows it was about slavery but people now feel like it was about state’s rights so that’s what is important.
Of course she ignores slavery. She's a conservative. Conservatives were responsible for slavery and they are tired of being called out for it. They would bring it back immediately if they weren't actively stopped by progressives.
Nearly every act of racism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny, antisemitism or other bigotry ever committed on earth has been at the hands of conservatives.
There is no place in a modern culture for conservatism. Teach your children why it is immoral to keep relationships or do business with such people. Marginalize hate by marginalizing those who hate.
This is some crazy partisan shit.
"Nearly every act of racism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny, antisemitism or other bigotry ever committed on earth has been at the hands of conservatives."
Let's talk about first and second wave feminists or terfs like Sheila Jeffreys. Or who pushed Don't Ask Don't Tell policies. Or some the unsavory views of Theodore Roosevelt. There are so many instances of progressives and liberals getting it wrong and causing harm. Conservatives do sometimes get it right if they are consistent. This current brand of American conservatism is bonkers though.
Gloria Steinem is still a queen no matter what happens ;)
It does bug me that partisans of either stripe conveniently ignore so much in order to find satisfaction with their preferred narrative.
OK but Lincoln was republican and he ended slavery. I'm all for calling out right wing nutjobs on their shit but attributing all evils ever to them is some serious echo chamber bubble shit
Lincoln was a Republican before the parties switched. It's well-documented how voting trends from the Civil War through to the Civil Rights Act flipped (hint, it's to do with racism and the North/South divide)
This is a brief overview. Obviously not an exhaustive history but covers the basics. https://www.studentsofhistory.com/ideologies-flip-Democratic-Republican-parties
I'm glad that you can admit Lincoln was a progressive who was in direct opposition to the conservatives of the time. You know the parties switched political orientations during the 1930's-1960's, don't you?
There's a reason modern Republicans love statues of the rebels and their precious confederate flags. You remember the confederates, right? They were the conservative slave-holders who fought AGAINST Lincoln and his progressive agenda of human rights.
Every word uttered by a conservative is either deception or manipulation. A conservative is simply not capable of entering any conversation in good faith.
How do people this stupid still exist? Or is it just a Russian troll?
Yes, conservatives were the reason slavery continued for so long. At the time of the Civil War, the conservative party were the Democrats.
I don’t fully agree with the details and history of what you are saying, but I absolutely agree with your general sentiment….
The history of us political parties is not that simple, and we have not always just had the democrat and Republican parties…. I see you said the word conservative, but a hundred years ago pretty much everyone would agree with our modern “Republican” party over our modern democrat party…. But times have changed, and I would agree many conservatives are stuck in an archaic mindset no longer compatible with the modern world
I sort of understand the downvotes here but also don't at the same time. Southern Democrats can be a bit of a surprise to newer generations not steeped in US history of the southern Dixiecrats and the southern block they use to rule with until they finally broke up and switched to the Republicans.
The comment above is sticking with Conservatives and Progressive which today most would equate to Republicans and Democrats respectively within the US.
This meme is a quick hey what?
This is for those that want to know
much*more in depth: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_DemocratsI love how this community has clearly become such an echo chamber that even people who try to speak with even a bit of logic and measure get downvoted to hell. Our words fall on deaf ears here.