2y ago

Seems like world deleted the Threads discussion post

And that they will federate with them ? (Can't seem to find it anymore at least)

I wonder how many people we're gonna lose over this, because I for one, spent time blocking what I wanted to, to curate my feed, and it took time. I already migrated once, I'm not gonna do it again because some people can't realize how toxic it's going to be when they federate with us.

I see a lot of people saying they'll just switch instances but haven't seen anyone say they'll just jump ship, am I alone ? Or maybe I'm missing an option that would allow me to transfer all my settings from one instance to another ?

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I see a lot of people saying they'll just switch instances but haven't seen anyone say they'll just jump ship, am I alone ?
I have switched instances a lot. I don't like the idea of other people curating my feed.
- I made my own instance for this reason.
  
  I have considered it.
  
  Is it expensive? Considering doing it myself
  
  This is actually detrimental to the network unless you're hosting a lot of other users. If it's just you then you're adding the federation load of an entire server just for your own personal use. Now all your subscriptions are a separate server pull on all the instances you subscribe to. Instead of using an existing instance that is already pulling
- What instance are you on? Voyager doesn’t even show me!
  
  There are probably better instances out there, but I'm on lemmy.dbzer0.com at the moment.
  
  In Voyager, you can toggle showing users’ instances in Settings > Appearance.
- I don't like the idea of other people curating my feed.
  I'll leave fediverse, so many instances in the fediverse are still federated with Threads
  https://fedipact.veganism.social/?v2
  
  so many instances in the fediverse are still federated with Threads
  Threads doesn't support federation currently, so nobody is federated with Threads at all.
I don't think the world admins really care if users transfer away. That's just federation in action. Good stuff.
- World admin playing 4d chess by showing the benefit of account migration in activitypub.
- My original concern about "losing people" wasn't about transferring away, but rather about leaving the fediverse entirely over the concern of having to remake an account and having to curate up to my standards all over again. Which is now a moot point since I've been given solutions to migrate easily.
  
  Oh gotcha. I'd suppose that if a person is that concerned with Threads, they're probably invested in the idea of Lemmy such that transferring to another instance is not out of the question. Someone who's not interested in putting in the effort to transfer probably doesn't feel strongly either way about Threads. That's just an assumption on my part, of course.
  
  Where you gonna go? Back to reddit?
The new 0.19.x version allows you to export and import your basic settings like subscriptions and blocks. I personally haven't tested it though.
Otherwise, here on lemmy, activity from threads is unlikely to reach us or have too much of an impact as following lemmy communities won't work well on their end. This presumes that they'll be focused on implementing microblogging and mastodon compatibility, which are very fair presumptions IMO. Not saying that you shouldn't care ... just that there's probably much more time than you think. On top of that, Threads's implementation of federation seems to be going slowly.
- Thanks for the infos
  I will see how it actually turns out, and yeah I didn't expect an instant "everything turn to crap" moment, but good to know that there's an option to easily migrate if need be. Although just the idea of them having any kind of access via federation really bothers me and I somewhat doubt they won't try something to "absorb" as much people as they can into Threads, that something having many possibilities in how it could manifest.
  
  I’m with you.
  If you haven’t seen it, here’s a great write up about federating with threads that does a really good job of outlining why there’s more to this than “but I have friends and relatives on instagram” and “isn’t it good for the fediverse to be popular?” arguments: https://erinkissane.com/untangling-threads
  My little tldr + hot take on the article here: https://hachyderm.io/@maegul/111627736340220610
  It’s by @kissane@mas.to on mastodon if you’re on there. I find myself enjoying and agreeing with just about everything they say about the fediverse and social media.
It’s possible in the latest version of Lemmy. World hasn’t upgraded yet. They are also already federated with threads.
- And as OP seems to be predicting, the world has clearly ended. 😅
  (not that I don't have plenty issues with Meta, but the way lemmings talk about it only serves to further corporate agenda by essentially making all criticism seem idiotic by association)
  
  To each their own reasons to care or not about being federated with Threads, it's not what this post is about.
  My line about how toxic it's gonna be is my opinion and admittedly might not have its place here in the context, but I'm only a human making a post, wondering if I'm alone or if I'm missing an option for an easy migration.
- They are also already federated with threads.
  That's impossible because right now Threads doesn't even support federation.
  
  It does, just only with a few users. Been under rock?
Threads federation really is a tempest in a teacup. People getting worked up over nothing.
Meta's failed twitter clone probably won't even federate with the threadiverse. Just look at this post. I see lemmy, I see kbin, I see lotide, I don't see mastodon, pleroma, friendica, and so on and so forth at all. I don't see minds (did you know that minds federates?), just a few programs of the same type.
This one? https://lemmy.world/post/9768202
- lol
Or maybe I’m missing an option that would allow me to transfer all my settings from one instance to another ?
https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim
- Thanks !
Threads won't affect Lemmy that much. Threads users will basically have to deliberately interact with Lemmy posts or communities to show up.
I for one, spent time blocking what I wanted to, to curate my feed, and it took time.
If that is your general approach, why are you suddenly so eager to hand over that responsibility to the instance owner? Why are you pushing for that instances should curate the feeds of all their users, rather than the users themselves?
- Fallacy much ?
  Because I don't want to be federated with threads doesn't mean I want to hand over the curating to the instance owner, there's such a thing as nuances.
  I also formulated a wish for world to defederate, but my solution when they didn't is to leave, you don't see me brigading for them to absolutely do it, so please do not lend to me what I didn't say.
  
  Then you can block threads yourself, as a user. It's as easy as that. Blocking threads on the entire instance makes it so admins are curating content for users. You don't get a choice when an instance defederates, you do when it federates. Defederation is a last resort, not a panic kneejerk reaction.
I'm having trust issues with them. I had an issue with them in their support community where they most likely deleted comments and then wouldn't own up, and now I'm at another instance. I would have left when they said they wouldn't defederate threads anyway. Leaving isn't that hard. If .19 gets figured out, you're supposed to be able to leave easily as well.
Can't you block threads.net as a user?
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Incidentally, there's an 8 day old post on the topic that is showing in my instance and I checked the source it wasn't deleted when I went.
What's the difference between switching instances and jumping ship?
Let Lemmy.world die Alone and leave them.
They dont care about ideology or others, they are juste sharky and want to make for them a name on the work of others.
I see it like it,
Join us on lemmy.ml! Small and chill instance. Most people are nice left leaning FOSS geeks, interactions are mostly super nice. The only thing I dislike is the Chappo Trap House community, they will basically bully anyone who's not a chappo-bro. I blocked them and voilà ! EDIT: Lol, why am I getting downvoted ?
- There’s a lot of negatives surrounding moderating on that instance and I’m sure the community you mentioned doesn’t help.
  
  Mmm I didn't know that. Seems pretty relax to me, never had an interaction with any of the mods. To me it's a very small reddit without all the toxicity. Good enough for me. Oh, and no porn, I guess that prevents many users from joining, probably a good thing in the end.

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