Fetterman says TikTok creating ‘warped’ perceptions of Israel-Hamas war
Fetterman says TikTok creating ‘warped’ perceptions of Israel-Hamas war
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Fetterman says TikTok creating ‘warped’ perceptions of Israel-Hamas war
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he's got a quarter million dollars of Israeli money in his pocket. I wonder if that might warp his fucking perception.
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I doubt he was exactly lovey-dovey to Palestine before he got that money.
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Media has been warping the perception of the genocide by Israel of Palestine for more than half a century.
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Ignores apartheid. Ignores genocide. Ignores occupation. Claims the full history isnt represented on tiktok.
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Tbf Palestine also ignores that they did those things to the Jews to begin with and calls for doing it again
But it is funny to see conservative circles praising Fetty when they hated him so much a month ago
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Yeah, I really want to hear senior Dem leadership tell the youth they’re listening to the “wrong” news sources about the Israel/Palestine conflict. /s
Is he in the pocket of AIPAC or simply never considered that support for Israel is support for genocide?
Get on the right side of history, dude.
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you consider him senior dem leadership?
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I agree that Congress is not on the right side of history here, but he's not entirely wrong. Few people have nuanced views that say Israel and Hamas are bad, and instead try to oversimplify to give people a side to root for.
It's a clusterfuck of politics, war crimes, and ancient grudges, and Palestine is stuck between.
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I think there are more than a few people who feel that Israel and Hamas are both bad actors here.
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If Mike Tyson fought a 9 year old for calling him a bitch...
Yeah, they're both in the wrong. But post fight it wouldn't be rational to say they're both at equally at fault.
Especially if Mike didn't stop with that kid and just beat up every child in the room
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You can be on the side of civilians. Pretty simple actually
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So far, I've seen far more people claiming someone else is defending Hamas than I've seen people actually defending them.
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dem leadership
So you’re just making shit up? Fetterman ain’t leadership lmao he’s a fucking freshman, the fuck you talking about
Is he in the pocket of AIPAC or simply never considered that support for Israel is support for genocide?
if you actually fucking cared, you would find that his district is one of the biggest for Jewish populations. It is clear he is representing his continents whether you agree or not.
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if you actually fucking cared, you would find that his district is one of the biggest for Jewish populations. It is clear he is representing his continents whether you agree or not.
Jewish Americans tend to be much more friendly towards the Palestinian cause than non-Jewish Americans.
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Tik tok is a news source?
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Certain accounts on there, yeah. Turns out it's not hard to be credible if you just try.
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Unironically yes.
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Ok, I followed the happenings in Gaza via Tiktok, among other things. My perception is that the IDF bombs the shit out of the Gaza strip and nowhere is safe. 20000 people died, many more severly disfigured. What is wrong with my perception?
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Tiktok is highly partial in general. So are US Senators.
He's probably not wrong in this case though in the past the Chinese don't push one view, they push both extremes to purposefully create division (eg they fund both BLM and proud boys)
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they fund both BLM and proud boys
Where can I find more about that?
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That's just basic psyops, Russia also has a successful history of propping up opposing factions.
Fear, uncertainty, and doubt [FUD] are tools to misinform people and erode trust in their social organizations, so that a malicious actor can divide and conquer their enemy
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Google works but try this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/09/28/forgotten-alliance-between-black-activists-china/
Did you guys think you tripped and ended up near to civil war by accident? 😅
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It is.
But the accurate perception is also really bad. Israel is committing genocide
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What about the UN? Is the OHCHR a warped perspective?
How about Reuters?
What's the limit? Because this is just the tip of the iceberg. We've got then using 2000 pound bombs in civilian areas on "tunnel entrances" they have no evidence were in use by Hamas. We've got then bombing hospitals and showing us standard security guard equipment for the middle east in an attempt to portray a military command post. They lied about a calendar that was plainly visible on the wall.
At what point do you admit they are purging the Warsaw ghetto?
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OK boomer
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Ok, zoomer.
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I'm ashamed to have supported him, and if nobody else will primary him I will. I'll lose, but clearly I need to do these jobs myself. Just like every goddamn thing else.
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It's amazing how much those sentences contradict each other.
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DaBabyAteMaDingo says Lemmy creating ‘warped’ perceptions of Israel-Hamas war
Both sides are incredibly biased and think they're right.
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The only proper stance to have on this is that Israel's genocide of Palestinians must stop, Hamas needs to be taken out, and Netanyahu should be deposed.
Then, Israel needs to be split into a smaller section and land given back to the Palestinians.
Gaza and West Bank do not work as being surrounded by Israel. They are prisons.
The killing has to end.
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At this point I'm done with the whole two state solution thing. That was bending over backwards to protect a colonial state while we all felt guilty. They squandered that. It's time for a single state solution with full voting rights. And yes that means the end of Israel as we know it. But that's how it went for South Africa, and Zimbabwe, and Rwanda, and countless other colonial remnants that held on too long.
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Why would Hamas need to be taken out? Violent resistance to a terrorist Nazi state is not illegal.
Taking out Hamas will solve absolutely nothing as 5 other organizations will pop up in their place. The problem is only israel, not Hamas.
Israel cannot be reasoned with and the two state thing will never happen. All the israeli ministers are already screaming it from the rooftops on national TV.
it''s like telling Hitler to peacefully live next to the Jews. Or the whites in Apartheid south Africa to just take half the land for themselves.
The problem has always been with Israel which is the bully. You are playing the teacher right now that says "you two divide the meal" when the bully beats a kid up and steals his lunch.
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There is no way forward for palastine in which Hamas exists. If the palestinians chose to continue to fight it's gonna end one was, with them cleansed from the land. See the Westbank with much better conditions fot the arabs because there aren't non stop rocket attacks. Also the settlements have to stop yesterday and the land partially returned
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Hamas pretty much wouldn't exist if Israel wasn't funding them: https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-security-forces-escorted-suitcases-cash-hamas-qatar-report-2023-12?r=US&IR=T
And hamas certainly wouldn't exist if the Palestinian people weren't being murdered for their land for decades.
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Mmmmm yes much better conditions.
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Hot take: I voted for him in the primary, and im going to vote for him again in 2028.
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Cool story.
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I mean seriously, all the facts are on Israel's side.
Now, I still think their actions against Palestinians are fucked up but until Palestinians actually do some work towards peace nothing will be solved.
And we'll be talking about it in 40 years as it's not on Israel to bring peace to the table when they tried to do that for decades back in the 1900s and each time the Arabs spit in their faces.
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Takes a liar to spot a liar i guess
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Takes a liar to spot a liar i guess
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Just from his huge switch pre-stroke from "progressives are the future, vote for me I'm a progressive" to openly complaining people think he's a progressive and multiple hard right views...
I really think he's one of the people that get big personality changes after a stroke.
My mom went the other way and became a much happier person and more sympathetic to issues facing others, unfortunately the change can happen either way.
It's either that, or he pulled a Sinema and just lied about being a progressive to get elected
I think people may have been looking at him with rose-tinted glasses.
I haven't seen any hard-right views from Fetterman.
Immigration and Israel would be the ones everyone is talking about now...
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/12/john-fetterman-is-the-status-quo-in-gym-shorts.html
I'm wondering if he's posturing for a future presidential run, and the party has told him that he needs to temper his progressive stances if he ever wants to run as a Democrat.
If so, definitely a bummer as he seemed like the exact type to not do that.
I'm also curious how biased the information they are given during briefings is. I can totally see how the information the people have and the information presented (or not presented) in briefings could influence congresspeoples opinions.
The person we see now is who he always was.
Would you even say that about someone who is nicer now, or are they just faking it and their meaner behavior was their true self?
"He changed after a stroke" is just a sad cope to not feel like they got gaslighted by normal politician things. Yeah you bought the same lie they all sell... "noo he had a stroke and changed!!"