Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden — and whether they’d come back
Young voters explain why they’re bailing on Biden — and whether they’d come back
I really think people would be happier if we set reasonable expectations for elected officials. Biden says he's gonna eliminate student loans? Yeah, no. Maybe, if we're very lucky and the lobbyists are feeling lazy we'll get $20,000 for the most in debt. The rest of you are on your own. (I don't blame Biden, the illegitimate Supreme Court did it, but there's nothing we can do about that.)
Stopping war? Nah, the US has been at war most of its history. Neither side is gonna stop it. Too much money to be made. But at least if we vote for Biden he'll pretend to feel bad about it, which is nicer than being a dick.
We're not getting universal health care. We're not getting better education. If we elect Biden next year there will still be twelve million children who are food insecure. Capitalism will continue to exploit you, and make you miserable, and then make you feel bad for being miserable.
But at the very least the government will feel badly about all the things they're doing/can't do. And that's about the best I've learned to hope for.
The Biden admin has forgiven 132bil in student loans so far. Not the 400bil the supreme court stopped, but way, way more than any other administration ever.
The key is that they have done it in small 5bil drips and drabs. This is a double edged sword in that the news has barely covered it, so there is no push to stop it. He can keep forgiving student debt, but only if no one notices and gets the corrupt courts involved.
Exactly my point: Lower your expectations.
It’s not going to happen overnight. It probably won’t happen at all, given the structure of our government.
But he’ll make nice noises while the world burns and we all go broke and that will be a bit more pleasant.
the student loan situation he has managed to finagle is incredible compared to what was before. interest can increase original principle, payments based on income and if its not paid back in 20 years its forgiven. And health care wise the no surpise billing is huge. I mean no previous president did either of these things and honestly would not be surprised if things like this got rolled back if its not him. but whatever.
They know they dont have to fulfil any promises because liberals will keep electing them regardless what they do, or dont do. There are never any consequences to their action. Now that Fetterman has come out as full fledged right wing nut job, that D will still get him reelected.
I haven’t heard any of them say “I think I’ll get what I want under trump,” so I’m not scared about the youth vote. I’m scared about the successful voter fraud.
Trump doesn't need people to vote for him, he just needs enough that stay home.
Voter fraud is exceptionally rare. Instead, worry about disinformation, propaganda, voter suppression, and what the GOP does this time, if it loses the presidential election.
Yawn…. This again?
FUD
These young voters live in different cities, work different jobs and have varying political beliefs. But among the things they have in common: They voted for Joe Biden in 2020 — and now say the president can’t count on their support in 2024.
“I genuinely could not live with myself if I voted for someone who’s made the decisions that Biden has,” said McKenzie, a 23-year-old working at Starbucks and as a union organizer in Madison, Wisconsin. “I didn’t even feel great about" voting for Biden back in 2020, he said.
Isnt it like a binary choice? It annoys me that fellow peeps are this stupid if my understanding is correct...
If you mean vote for him vs. not vote for him, then yes.
If you mean vote for him vs. the Republican nominee, then no, as there are other options. For starters the article seemed to suggest that some may just not vote at all. They also might vote for him but do so reluctantly, e.g. without discussing with their friends strongly promoting the voting for Biden as they did in the last election.
But it's a long way to the actual election, and campaigning has not started in earnest yet.
Queue the tide of rhetoric insisting it’s between Biden and Trump…. And we’re the problem for not voting they way they tell us to.
I'm majorly blaming these people when Trump wins.
i swear to god, if you little shits let trump win, i'm gonna start smashing 20 something teeth in every time i leave the house.
These kinds of articles are basically just "why specific groups you don't like are the reason your life is going to shit". Getting bent out of shape because a shocking minority of voters isn't really worth it.
your assessment hasn't been true since 2019. . They even have a handy chart:
meh. im closer to the sweet peace of death than they are.
If you want to vote against Biden do it between February and June during the primarys. Primary races are the time to vote with your heart find your dream candidate and go for it. In November you have 2 choices.
You mean, like the primaries that dems are purposely not holding because the feckless are afraid of actual progressives?
Like, the primaries that are supposed to be going on… now?
That was the candidate's fault in Tennessee & Florida. Better to for the world to know they are morons now instead of always wondering. Candidates like that shouldn't be near power.
Multiple choices. Dem, GOP, third party, refrain from voting, etc
Unfortunately, due to the systems we have in place, anything past the first to amounts to being a conscientious objector. Which generally just means the greater of two evils has a greater chance of succeeding.
Edited for sanity.
Nope 2 choices "DEM vs NOT DEM" or "GOP vs NOT GOP" America has a first past the post voting system it looks like an election between candidates but it's effectively each candidate versus the 50% threshold.