2y ago

Twitch allowing more nudity after disproportionately banning female streamers | Twitch confirmed its policy banning nudity was sexist.

Twitch allowing more nudity after disproportionately banning female streamers

Twitch allowing more nudity after disproportionately banning female streamers | Twitch confirmed its policy banning nudity was sexist.::Twitch confirmed its policy banning nudity was sexist.

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2y ago

Twitch allowing more nudity after disproportionately banning female streamers

arstechnica.com /tech-policy/2023/12/twitch-finally-updates-overly-punitive-confusing-sexual-content-policy/

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Sexism is an issue with gaming for sure but banning nudity is not sexism.
- It is if women's nipples are nudity but men's nipples are not.
  
  I agree with you but this is more of a societal issue and not necessarily a Twitch issue. I think Twitch following the standards set by society was reasonable however them pushing to improve upon those is absolutely welcome.
  
  Bad take in my opinion. It's quite clear the difference between the two in our society.
  
  Why not have a "no nipples" policy in general? I'm guessing that if parents think that their 7 year olds are going on Twitch to see boobs, they could lose some viewers.
  But yes, policies should be applied equally.
  
  There are literal sex differences between men and women. If we include those in the definition of sexism, we cheapen the word.
- I would rather not see any nudity on my gaming streams...
Twitch is stuck between a religious rock and a hard-as-wood place.
- Hard-as-rock?
  
  They meant hard ass wood
I agree twitch is stuck but for me they shouldn't allow more nudity. Even if they put it in different categories. It s not a problem of puritanism , it s just that kid will have a direct access to literals strip stream , and your twitch account is directly linked with your amazon account and your cc. I have absolutely not problel with site like chaturbate , because you have to search for it , its completely clear on the content and even if of course there are kids who will browse it , well its more" difficult " to pay on it . Oh and btw on twitch the streamer is way closer to the chat than on any cam site the line between streamer and porn is too blur.
- Is it really that hard for twitch to create an option to mark a stream as mature only Allowing 16+ accounts? (Should be mature enough for erotic non porn)
  Kids who lie about their age know what there doing and require more parental oversight when signing up to a platform.
  
  That's already a thing, but 18+ like the law states. Streamers can mark their streams mature and it shows you a warning and disclaimer. Only twitch needs is kids accounts with the option for a parent to disable access to those streams.
I'm all for allowing nudity in general, but it would be nice if you could actually block it or at least remove it from your recommendations.
One time I accidently clicked on one of these bathtub streamers and since then there always is one in my recommendation, with no way to remove it. I literally had to install a browser extention "Unwanted Twitch" to finally get rid of it.
- My home page is literally bathtub streamers and horny VR chat streamers, I think it's because I watch VR chat meme streamers (lolathon, darrenzeus) and the algorithm just thinks that means I want horny shit. I'll have to look at that extension.
  
  Under the new rules, your homepage should not show any content that is only allowed when content labeled for sexuality/nudity/drugs/etc. and these streamers need to be labeling their content for it to be allowed.
  Your “following” page might be different since you’ve explicitly asked to see those streams.
  Finally, the FrankerFaceZ extension just added the ability to blur thumbnails which are content-labeled (on any listing page on the site) so if you are on desktop, I highly recommend using FFZ browser extension if this is an issue for you.
So what happens when a minor streams themselves nude to thousands of viewers? Does everyone get charged?
- well, now I really don't feel like I'm missing much on twitch.
- LOL what? It would be the same if a minor uploaded themselves to Pornhub. The video would just be taken down.
- Are minors allowed to stream? I don't know if it's worth the legal hassle.
A bunch of furries tried to abide by this policy and ended up getting banned lol
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In one prominent example, just two days before the policy change, Twitch banned OnlyFans model Morgpie for posting "topless" streams.
Hession confirmed that Twitch's policy prohibiting "content that ‘deliberately highlighted breasts, buttocks or pelvic region,’ even when fully clothed" was confusing.
"Streamers found it difficult to determine what was prohibited and what was allowed and often evaluating whether or not a stream violated this portion of the policy was subjective," Hession wrote.
The only exceptions will be made for streams labeled as including mature-rated games and profanity, which will still appear in the main feed on the homepage.
"In addition to providing clarity, these updates will also reduce the risk of inconsistent enforcement and bring our policy more in line with other social media services."
“With the updated terms of service, content on Twitch containing mature themes will be allowed but no longer pushed on the homepage of the site,” Morgpie told Dexerto.
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I think rule no. 2 should be more clarified.
- Your comment insinuates that you have trouble finding gamers on the platform, as if there's a finite limit on creator count and the gamers are getting pushed out by non-gaming creators, which is obviously not the case.
  Is it a matter of going to Twitch for games but then getting roped in by the porn instead? If so, that's pretty funny tbh.
Interesting how we've gone from "expecting nudity from women is sexist" to "NOT expecting nudity from women is sexist".
- How in gods green earth did you mangle that point out of this story
  
  Well, in my experience from using Twitch it’s predominantly female streamers who do these kind of streams, so if there’s a policy against it, it would make sense that it would affect mostly women. That’s not sexist in and of itself.
  But when you say that the policy is sexist because it affects mostly women, it implies that its unfair not to expect women to engage in nudity, doesn’t it.

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