Canada wants to make cows burp less to fight climate change
The federal government is proposing financial incentives for farmers in lieu of cutting enteric methane emissions that are released in the air when cows burp.
they will finance farmers to feed cows some stuff reducing burping but there's not a word in implication on animals/humans. Like wheat mutation that allowed larger yields but spiked gluten content this has the same potential. How about "stop feeding animals crap they are not supposed to eat"? We've had A LOT of bizon and other ruminants grazing this land before we've exterminated them with no methane effects seemingly. So perhaps it's worth looking at sustainable husbandry rather than feedlots and factory farms?
The biomass of livestock for human consumption vastly outnumbers natural populations.
grass instead of corn, that they don't digest well
Sustainable husbandry that provides the same amount of food would also require a signifcant amount more land, which comes with its own concerns.
We are a somewhat advanced civilization in possession of math and other science knowledge. Can we not figure out optimal balance instead of jacking everything up in our failure? I mean you're right extensive replaced with expansive is not much of a solution but we can estimate what kind of load can ecosystem truly sustain. Say, we return the bison and other mammal numbers back to what they used to be, then we measure population growth deriving reasonable ratio for animal consumption at which animal numbers can remain relatively stable. However that will not remove all the other sources of pollution. I just want us to stop "experimenting" on ourselves, animals and environment when we really have no idea what are we doing. In science you go back to previously known good state and reevaluate hypothesis... we're not doing that, we're just doubling down on insanity 🙁
Before hunting the almost to extinction, there were 60 million bisons in America.
In 2022 there were 90 million cows and they get killed much faster than bisons lived naturally.
If you want to have ""sustainable husbandry "" there's only one way. Eat less meat.
Cow is not the only meat. Small example: we use lots of machinery for manicuring lawns, fields etc. This is pollution plain and simple. We use mechanized methods for clearing the brush. Having goats/sheep/other grazers covers both needs without heavy impact on pollution. While it is possible that eat less meat is a thing one has to take into account a lot of other things. Among which eat less period. Obesity pandemic around the globe exacerbates the issue - larger humans consume more calories thus require more production. Food waste is rampant. Estimates pin spoilage at 40%. So, no, I say we should address core issues before we can declare that all options have been exhausted and now we've got to cut on meat consumption.
What a minimal issue. They should focus instead on how to not ship they're garbage to other countries to throw it in the ocean.
This perspective always confuses me. There are thousands of things we need to be doing to help slow down this awful path we're on.
But if we make any progress on any issue that isn't one of the top 10 issues, people come out and make noise as if there is a single person working on solving all these problems, and by them progressing this one thing meant everything else was on hold.
"They" has always been one solitary but massive and undefinable group orchestrating the downfall of humanity one step at a time.
Because many companies are making minor, cheap solutions so they can sell carbon tax credits. Many green projects are just another profit generation scheme. Very rarely is any real change being worked on.
Going vegan is super easy.
While it is voluntary we must not rely on it to solve our problems. What aboutism does not help.
This isn't whataboutism. Whayaboutism is talking about some other problem.. Going vegan is a solution to the problem at hand. The easiest solution
It will solve a large number of problems with minimal effort put on individuals.
The key here is that it doesn't rely on industry or government to make a difference, and it puts the power back in our hands. 💪
for some people this might be true.
So is turning cows into ground beef, which many agree is far more delicious.
I don't think it's super easy on an individual basis. I think for regular people it'll be a really difficult transition. However, given the solutions we're coming up with, and with the effects we're having on the environment ... it's definitely easier relatively speaking.
I think that even cutting meat out a few days a week or going vegetarian than full-blown vegan would have a great effect too. Probably both on health and the environment.
I don’t think it’s super easy on an individual basis. I think for regular people it’ll be a really difficult transition.
Change is often difficult, but going vegan isn't a change that I'd say is too hard, or even a little hard, for most people.
20 years ago, it was fairly easy to transition. And that was with a complete lack of resources, or the multitude of dairy-free, meat-free, and vegan products we now see available in pretty much any store and restaurant.
There are also so many organizations these days that can help with the transition, lay out meal plans, etc. It honestly couldn't be easier, especially when you consider that most people would also be saving money by cutting out animal products from their diet.
Yes, go vegan a few days a week if that helps (most find a slow transition to be more difficult). See how easy it is. Then go full vegan.
If we didn't have a global climate crisis to deal with, then it might not be as pressing of an issue. But it really is something we all ought to be doing at a bare minimum. As soon as possible.
Not enough time in the day, telling everyone you're vegan is a full time job.
Trying to justify the livestock industry is a lifelong endeavor. 😂
Damn, I was hoping it was the kelp diet but it’s just adding vitamins that calm their stomachs
Make them shit and piss less too, i fucking hate shit and piss
Edit: I don't care how 'natural' it is it's fucking gross seeing a cow squatting and taking a massive dump right in front of you
The best climate solution we can come up with is "make the cows burp less"?
Do better.
Firstly, climate change requires multiple solutions, this is just one of many. Secondly, methane is one of the gasses we can make the most change the quickest with. Thirdly, cow burps contain a lot of methane and it's pretty easy to reduce that with food supplements . It's actually pretty clever. Not sure why you're being so dismissive.
For some people, it seems that any change that isn't a 100% solution is wrong.
We've become so extreme in our conversations vs. being moderate to the point that people hate you for finding common ground. They want you to say they're right and that's it.
What do we do outlaw beef? Until we can create a true facsimile through plants or lab grown meat it will just be an albatross around our necks in the culture war.
Cows are the largest source of methane on earth, and if you can add 1% algae to their feed or something to make them produce less we would be stupid to miss it.
By "do better" I think they mean "allow me to continue living exactly as I have been with no noticeable changes, hardships or tax increases"
We could tax greenhouse gas emissions to internalize the environmental cost.
If the beef burger would cost 2x more than the plant-based burger (which basically tastes the same but has 90% fewer emissions), most people would choose the plant-based one. That would massively reduce food related ghg emissions, and also create a huge incentive to develop better alternatives/lab meat.
It's not the best, nor is it the only. It's one aspect across the entirety of human enterprise, and unlike an individual person, countries and societies are able to implement multiple initiatives at once.
What makes you think this is the only solution being implemented?
The fact our government bought an oil pipeline?
There are more humans in earth than cows. We should find a way to make humans burp less.
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