Wind and solar pose climate threat too, oil giant Saudi Arabia argues

Country that sells oil tells everyone to stop talking about the problems with selling oil.

Details at 11.

Everything that we do has an impact on the environment. We need to choose the options that have the least impact which is not oil.

Will nobody rid me of this turbulent oligarch

"What happens when the windmills suck up all the wind and the solar panels all the sunshine?"

well, we can keep the wind blowing by feeding every one beans, onions and brocoli. and for the lactose intolerant... dairy.
- "Natural Gas"
- Fine fine but that's just half the question, we still need a solution for the sunshine thing
I dunno, I think it's certainly possible that intentionally adding resistance to wind could cause unforeseen effects on high and low pressure systems. It's something that should be studied and understood not immediately dismissed, that's how we ended up in this situation with petrochemicals
- It has been studied though.

The desperate pleas of a king who lost his crown.

The writing's on the wall bro. Why don't you just do what the U.S. oil giants are doing and take that $ and invest in renewables and the future?

Because! He OWNS economies! Why should he have to make gobs of money in a different way when he is making more money than God now? Unfair I tell you! No science!

When people say things like this we should be allowed to set them on fire.

Bad for the climate though.
- Nah it’s a net win.

but much less so than oil. sucks for counties that have less than zero exports other than oil

And breathing has a non-zero chance of causing death.

What a bunch of horse shit lol

The points they're making are not wrong. We should be paying attention to the lifecycle emissions of green energy facilities (that isn't the same thing as not building those facilities). And we should be putting more resources into development of direct CO2 capture; the argument raised in the article, that CO2 capture is bad because it will draw attention from the green transition, is laughably stupid.

It's not so much that carbon capture will draw attention from the transition, it's that the transition will be blocked by the desire $$$ from greedy fucks don't give a shit about any transition whatsoever:
"Energy Minister Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman said Monday that the country would oppose any COP28 text that calls for reducing global fossil fuel consumption."
This isn't some qualified plan to offset emissions with carbon capture, it's a qualified plan to continue as is while throwing shade on renewables and continuing to throw some pocket change at unicorn tech like carbon capture that has seen virtually no advancement in the 20 years it's been touted so that people feel like we'll eventually have some magical fix for all the problems we've created.
- This isn’t some qualified plan to offset emissions with carbon capture, it’s a qualified plan to continue as is while throwing shade on renewables and continuing to throw some pocket change at unicorn tech like carbon capture that has seen virtually no advancement in the 20 years it’s been touted so that people feel like we’ll eventually have some magical fix for all the problems we’ve created.
  saying it again, louder, for the people in the back. this guy's entire job is to sell oil. if tossing pocket change to some random tech that sounds fancy is gonna let him sell more oil... he's going to do it.
And we should be putting more resources into development of direct CO2 capture.
We already have working systems for that, they are called trees and phytoplankton.
- and, uh, soil. it ain't dirt.... and it's worth protecting.
- Trees and phytoplankton keep the carbon around.
If we could somehow pull the carbon out of the atmosphere, bind it up into a solid rock, and bury it deep underground away from bacteria and fungi that would metabolise it back into the air that would be really good.
In the mean time we should focus on not digging up exactly that aka coal.
- Imagine if instead of buying it underground we could instead use it to build useful things like housing...
  Sweet baby Jesus! We just invented trees!
- I mean, all life on Earth is basically carbon based and that's how oil formed in the first place, organic matter burried deep and left there for a very long time. We'd just have to find a way to put organic matter in the places we extract oil from now.
  Living things already pull carbon out of the atmosphere (via plants, for instance - plants pull carbon from the air and nitrogen from the soil, and along with water build up all manner of sugars and proteins. animals then eat those and they become the building blocks for the animal's body). They also put some back as byproducts of metabolism - CO2 for higher organisms, methane for some bacteria. Living things just go through a cycle and none of the carbon remains locked away, as it was in the case of oil deposits. All that oil was at some point huge hunks of living, breathing, eating, multiplying beings. So we wouldn't actually need to form it into a solid rock before disposing of it.
  I don't know, maybe we can just dig an extremely deep pit and shove all our organic waste down there. Or make some very sturdy concrete tombs (similar to nuclear waste, minus the lead) and just seal it all away, but it'd have to be completely sealed so as not to seep into the environment around it. Or deep enough so that it won't contaminate groundwater if it does.

Doesn't oil industry infrastructure also have a huge carbon footprint? Seems like putting the cart way before the horse.