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  • America is uniquely evil. End of discussion.

  • Im gonna plant a big gay flag into the skull of one of these clowns that has STFU emblazoned on it.

    PatSocs are fucking traumatized by twitter and social media. Absolutely fucking traumatized that the internet enabled FOR ONCE in history the safety of anonymity for non whites to let whites know exactly what they think FOR ONCE.

    Im so sick and tired of PatSocs crying that sassy trans folks are the reason the roads are turning to gravel and the fucking power is going out.

    Just... Shut the fuck up. My god.

    It's the disrespect of assuming the "wokies" have no idea what the concept of relationships to labor are. It would be a fucking MIRACLE if they stopped presuming that non whites just wanna be non white liberal elites or that they dont know any better because they simply have unique concerns.

  • i don't think saying america is uniquely evil is american exceptionalism dawg

    • If you negate the marxist class analysis, it is. America certainly is the most evil, degenerate, lumpen place in the world, but is not exceptional.

  • @SaddamHusein24 I think you have a small misunderstanding. The patriotism of actual Marxists, dare I say even in America, should be upheld - and I mean the patriotism of wanting your country to be destroyed and reborn as Lenin said, and to flourish for all the American people. The genuine belief that the American worker should be supported and treated fairly, regardless of minority grouping, and that they deserve better is a great thing!

    The "patriotism" of "PatSocs" is vastly different. PatSocs are a very specific reactionary group with specific views here in the west. They believe that we should all hunker down and throw away the "liberal wokeness that is internationalism" and put trans people in gulgas since they're "lib degenerates" and that's what Stalin would have wanted. It's reactionary position not based on any real material analysis, and as such, should be combated.

    • The “patriotism” of “PatSocs” is vastly different. PatSocs are a very specific reactionary group with specific views here in the west.

      But thy the fuck everything the anti-"patsocs" did up to date was to make the word "patriotism" haram in almost every communist space despite knowing what you said in the first paragraph yourself?

      At best it's american exceptionalism in the wild ride, and at worst an op to sow mistrust between american communists and all others. And Lemmy is still infinite better than reddit where even Genzedong banned people for even attemping to discuss it.

      Idk about those "specific reactionary group" "patsoc" guys, but if they are socialchauvinists, call them what they are. Will you start to call nazis "socialists" too, because it's in the name?

      • Will you start to call nazis "socialists" too, because it's in the name?

        Doesn't the word Nazi come from their name Nationalsozialist?

      • The particular group of internet dweebs being critiqued call themselves patriotic socialists or socialist patriots. That's just kinda how language works. You can't change it any more than you can stop libs from calling MLs tankies.

        Plus there's more than one kind of chauvinism.

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