Full List of Public Figures Defending Susan Sarandon
Full List of Public Figures Defending Susan Sarandon
Full List of Public Figures Defending Susan Sarandon
I do find this thing she said dogy...
“There are a lot of people afraid of being Jewish at this time, and are getting a taste of what it feels like to be a Muslim in this country.”
I don't think Jewish people need reminding of the west's antisemitism - the west literally invented it and, despite all pretences to the contrary, has merely tried to hide it from view as opposed to actually dismantling it.
But apart from that her words are perfectly reasonable.
As an American Jew, I've almost gotten used to facing anti-semitism from the right. A Republican politician is tacitly approving of Nazis waving swastika flags and chanting anti-semitic slogans? Must be a day that ends in Y.
What's scared me is the anti-semitism I've seen from some on the left. I'm not talking about criticizing Israel or wanting the Palestinians to be safe. I don't count that as anti-semitism. I'm talking about people on the left saying that all Jews are responsible for what Israel is doing and saying that American Jews (including Jewish temples and Jewish owned businesses) are legitimate targets because Israel did stuff they disagree with. And then there are others on the left who try to gaslight Jews who say they are encountering anti-semitism - telling them that they aren't and are just imagining it.
Intellectually, I know this is a very vocal minority, but suddenly hearing this from the left while still hearing anti-semitic remarks from the right has me scared and not feeling safe. I don't want to publicly identify myself as Jewish in public for fear of encountering someone who either hates me for my religion or who holds me responsible for the actions of a country that I'm not a citizen of.
people on the left saying that all Jews are responsible for what Israel is doing and saying that American Jews (including Jewish temples and Jewish owned businesses) are legitimate targets because Israel did stuff they disagree with.
yeah that's fucked.
With all due respect, I've yet to see any Leftist discourse saying anything remotely like what you've written. Even on Hexbear.
Thats really awful. It's not OK to make all Jews wear the blame for another country's actions.
Can you point to any examples of that?
It's unfortunate that Israeli propaganda has been unrelentingly conflating jewishness and israeliness. A real disservice to Jews everywhere.
“There are a lot of people afraid of being Jewish at this time, and are getting a taste of what it feels like to be a Muslim in this country.”
I don't think Jewish people need reminding of the west's antisemitism
To read the original comment again, you may find it's not about proving or disproving one form of hate but comparing with another level of hate in the country.
And, while there's no Olympic medal for hate victims being more victimized than another, the physical brand of hate muslims can be a little exceptional after the 1900s. Not being a member of either group, my read of the 'taste of' quote would have been more received if the comparison to Germany in the late 1900s was more blatant.
But I'll take this moment to add: the friends I have whom I know follow Judaism do not hate like one state demands they hate. And that needs to change.
Yeah, I couldn't see anything in that statement to defend. It was stupid as best, and makes her sound like she condones the behavior. Like you said, Jewish people don't need a reminder of anti-semitic hate and violence.
Oh look; McCarthy blacklists!
Not a single name I recognize in that list.
These names are well known in politics, especially for the people that followed Bernie Sanders (2016/2020).
Lee Camp (comedian, was with RT, now Dangerous Ideas with Lee Camp)
Cornel West (Independent 2024 Presidential candidate, was with People's party, Green Party)
Nina Turner (former Ohio state senator and Bernie Sanders surrogate, We Are Somebody worker organization)
Briahna Joy Gray (Bad Faith and Rising with The Hill)
Aaron Maté (Useful Idiots, Pushback with The GrayZone, worked with DemocracyNow!)
Who???
Cornel West (Independent 2024 Presidential candidate, was with People’s party, Green Party)
Nina Turner (former Ohio state senator and Bernie Sanders surrogate, We Are Somebody worker organization)
Briahna Joy Gray (Bad Faith and Rising with The Hill)
All three of these people are people I would never want to be associated with. This is more harm than good.
A shame Sarandon wasn't given the same treatment years ago when she claimed chemical weapons attacks in Syria had been faked & presented Assad as the victim of Western regime change policies, rather than the 21st Century's most notorious war criminal.
Take a look at these articles, it does present a different view on the events, listed some newest to oldest (some dates 3/27/2023 thru 5/19/2019:
Aaron Maté
Aaron Maté is a journalist and producer. He hosts Pushback with Aaron Maté on The Grayzone. In 2019, Maté was awarded the Izzy Award (named after I.F. Stone) for outstanding achievement in independent media for his coverage of Russiagate in The Nation magazine. Previously, he was a host/producer for The Real News and Democracy Now!.
Burying key evidence, new OPCW report covers up Douma’s unsolved deaths
Aaron Mate at UN: OPCW cover-up denies justice to Syria victims
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/03/24/aaron-mate-un-opcw-justice-syria/
In Douma cover-up, OPCW’s new smoking gun backfires
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/02/03/opcw-smoking-gun-backfires/
Chain of corruption: how the White Helmets compromised OPCW investigations in Syria
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/09/09/syrian-white-helmets-opcw/
Corrupting science: In Syria probe, OPCW erased experts’ inconvenient findings
Syrian insurgents guilty of ‘red line’ 2013 sarin chemical attack, study finds
At UN, Aaron Maté debunks OPCW’s Syria lies and confronts US, UK on cover-up
Leaked OPCW report suggests Syria gas attack was ‘staged,’ MIT scientist says
https://thegrayzone.com/2019/05/25/opcw-syria-gas-attack-staged-theodore-postol/
Just now hearing about this.
So she basically said antisemitism is okay because Islamophobia exists. Like, "well, if we can't stop racism, let's at least be racist against everyone." Maybe the worst take in the past 2 months of incredibly bad takes.
This is coming from a white, cisgender person who is neither Jewish nor Muslim, and is worth $60 million ($10 million she made since the start of the pandemic)
Is that what she is saying or is she saying that Muslims in the US normally get a lot of hate and since many people are upset by Israel's actions Jewish people are now getting a taste of that?
Maybe I'm missing some additional context but it doesn't read to me like she's condoning the hate towards any specific group, but simply pointing out that it exists.
Maybe she's full of crap or maybe she's highly educated on the topic, I don't know. I do know that it appears to me that people are putting words into her mouth. Again, maybe I'm missing something in the story?
My interpretation is your interpretation too.
However, getting a taste of their own medicine, as a phrase, normally means it is justified and/or deserved. So, it could be interpreted as being gleeful in Jewish people being targets. I don't think it is. I think she's just pointing out that the use of terrorist actions by Israel affects ordinary Jews with nothing to do with the conflict, just like ordinary muslims have been affected for the last 20+ years.
I think the fact that multiple people are getting cancelled over their support for Palestine is worrying. Especially as it doesn't seem related to a public backlash, but comes from those with power. Maybe heavy handed PR protection. Maybe using influence they have to support Israel.
As I type it, I realize that this is how conspiracy theories about Jewish secret influence starts. That's not what I mean. I hope I keep my agent.
Sounds more like she is justifying the frightening rise in antisemitism because Islamophobia already existed:
"There are a lot of people afraid of being Jewish at this time, and are getting a taste of what it feels like to be a Muslim in this country,"
I don't think that she knows that Jews targeted by antisemitism is nothing new.
No. That's not what she said at all. You've misinterpreted her very clear words.
Apparantly words mean different things for you
I don't see that in the quotes, what are you referring to?
Here is a response from Muslim American journalist Asra Nomani: (Sorry for the X Link) It includes the quote and Asra's response to it.
EXACTLY!
Article on subject:
Susan Sarandon dropped by talent agency after remarks at pro-Palestine rally [Nov 21 2023 | Adrian Horton | The Guardian] https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/nov/21/susan-sarandon-pro-palestinian-remarks-uta-dropped
I can't read the article, what did she say?
Nothing that any sane, educated human would view as antisemitic. Anti-Netanyahu, sure. Anti war-crimes, yes. Pro hamas, no. Pro peace, yes
This is not an anti-jewish stance at all.
""" You don’t have to be Palestinian to care about what’s happening in Gaza. I stand with Palestine. No one is free until everyone is free. https://t.co/23JHFbuf5K — Susan Sarandon (@SusanSarandon) November 4, 2023 """
edit: these->this
This is some of what she said:
Newsweek:
Guardian:
https://archive.ph/WCzoO