2y ago

Lemmy invite to local subreddit going badly. Hook a brother up?

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I can't believe how pro-reddit sentiment is. It's like a totally different reality.

https://www.reddit.com/r/boulder/comments/156wih1/disappointed_by_reddit_but_dont_know_where_else/

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A lot of users use the official app and are on new Reddit, and the only "disruption" that they noticed was the protests themselves. They have no idea the damage Reddit has done to moderators and may not even notice the resulting decline in content quality as the smaller subset of people who post and moderate the most wander away to newer pastures.
But over time, they will notice. More and more subreddits will become the domain of uninterested powermods and repost bots. It takes time for a giant to fall, Digg didn't turn into Reddit overnight.
- This is the biggest thing. A lot of my friends simply think Kbin and Lemmy are inferior and look outdated, which they are if you have only used the social media site called reddit, not the link aggravater called reddit
  
  Experiencing Lemmy through a native app like Memmy or even a WPA like Voyager (former WefWef) is so much nicer than the default interface.
- Digg didn't turn into Reddit overnight.
  That’s not how I remember the last days of Digg. The redesign happened and it was more like a tabloid news site than a the familiar user-submitted voted content in a list format we’d all grown to love. It was a virtually overnight change, unlike Reddit.
  Reddit on the other hand, the changes are all mostly under the hood. The “default” subs are full of users who use new Reddit experience in the web / the default app. The number of users that use old Reddit / third party apps are exceedingly tiny but very vocal.
  Based on that, my hypothesis is that not much will change with Reddit for a long time. It won’t be a swift downfall like the last few days of digg were. Most, if not all of my friend circle still use Reddit and simply don’t care about what they’re doing to their mod base. Personally I can’t in good conscience continue using a website that treats its most prolific users and moderators so poorly.
  
  I remember this vividly. Opening digg and thinking "by god - what have they done?!" And to reddit I went.
- The quality of posts and responses since the "exodus" is completely apparent to any longtime reddit users. Admittedly elitist as it is, the spelling and grammar by it self has been base level evidence of that. Not to mention the myriad of other ways its taken a nosedive.
  Reddit has already been in decline for a long time, but from the few times I've checked since the protests it's much worse now, and quickly getting even worse. And as you said, most of the people left there do not care which is disappointing.
  Unfortunately as optimistic as I was about lemmy, so far I'm not sold. Theres all of the same issues here if not more. We may have witnessed the birth and death of something really cool within a very short time (considering). Even if true options take a decade to build up I think it's too late. The experiment has concluded.
  It makes me sad because reddit used to be a really cool place. Rules were about allowing truly contributive content to be disseminated. Up votes were for ideas that added to the conversation in a meaningful way. Downvotes were reserved not for points that were disagreed upon, but thoughts that did not add substance to the conversation. It was a much better community to be a part of back then. That environment just doesn't exist anymore on a broad level.
  
  I'm staying here. At least I'm never going back to reddit so it's this or nothing. I've watched the decline in real time so I know what the bullsbit over there is
- And ads. Lots and lots of ads.
  
  And fake posts. They're getting even worse, and the users more gullible.
  I read a BORU post the other day about a girl whose gamer boyfriend was trying to get her to have sex with him while his mic was still on. In the update she said she found his old 4chan account from years ago where he had saved a post about getting a partner to "perform" on the mic for the guy's friends. 4chan doesn't have accounts, she was called out on this, then edited her post to say she didn't really know how 4chan works (no duh) but it was in fact some link aggregation site of 4chan exclusively where you can save posts. Instead of calling out her lack of credibility, most users in the BORU thread were doubling down on believing her.
- I used the official app, but I didn't have to wait to experience a disruption to know that this was the last straw. I switched to Lemmy just prior to the protest and never looked back. Regardless of the actual dispute, I'm not going to use a site run by someone who so obviously thinks as little of their users as spez does. Even I have more self-respect than that!
- But over time, they will notice.
  r/all has deteriorated over the past several weeks, so even in the short term it's becoming somewhat noticeable.
- I even went to a Digg gathering once. I got a poster of the dig guys. I forgot their names now. Dirty blonde chubby guy and black hair guy with faint mustache, last name Roses or Rosales?
  
  Kevin Rose, the guy who threw a raccoon down his stairs? Also founded Digg, though that's never what I remember him for.
It is a totally different reality. The nature of social media bubbles means that you are experiencing an entirely alien experience just by dint of being here. The problems of Reddit look huge when everyone around you keeps talking about them, you subscribe to communities that hate Reddit, and it sounds like everyone is on board with the exodus from Reddit because, well, they're here.
But Reddit has ten? a hundred? times more users than the Fediverse has, even fully federated. All the people who stay are going to be people who didn't deem the problem serious enough - this means complaints about Reddit won't be upvoted, and there is a high chance that the only way that users feel affected by what Reddit has done at all are the blackouts that affected their performance. Everytime someone posts there about what is wrong with Reddit, it simply results in ten replies about how the problem can't be that big, and Reddit still enjoys the engagement.
The nature of human intuition and social media means that it's very easy to fall into the trap of believing your universe is the real one, and it's just as true for us as it is for them. In my case I've chosen not to go back to Reddit entirely and provide the one objective metric I can of my unhappiness: -1 user on their site.
Yeah I experienced that when I tried to invite some of the people in a subreddit to one I created in lemmy. I even invited the admins to lemmy to admin as well.
I’m really surprised how unwilling people are to change even if it’s in their best interest.
But still, keep at it my man. They will come.
Your post reads a bit like spam. Rather than saying “here’s another community” to a potentially skeptical one, you can post questions about whether something on another site is true or just link posts when appropriate. As proZD put it, you have to tickle their balls a little. People love to feel like they’ve discovered something.
I don't think there's a benefit to trying to convince people to get the way you feel. Instead, make sure people looking for an alternative have one and let people who like Reddit go in peace.
Why use a domain name in Libya for this? You’ll get same crap as the ml TLD. Create your own c/boulder somewhere instead.

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