2y ago

Valve says "technology doesn't exist" yet for full Steam Deck 2.0

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2y ago

Valve says "technology doesn't exist" yet for full Steam Deck 2.0

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this is the attitude I like. Don't release something unless it massively better than what came before.
- That’s valve’s philosophy though. It’s the reason we never got a half life 3.
  
  Half Life Alyx basically is HL3
  
  I never understood why folks are so obsessed over sequels. if a games good or a movie or whatever. it can just stand as being good. same if its the second one or whatever. Why does there even need to be another unless the artists have something to bring.
- Especially since their angle is a good midpoint of the trifecta of performance, price, and size.
When there is a 2. Just know it will be the last Deck ever. We all know Valve can't count to 3.
- Yeah, but on the other hand, you also know it will be a massive evolution that will last several generations nevertheless.
- "Is this what you've been waiting for? Say one, two...and four"
  
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- They will just use labels instead of numbers.
  
  something something "Steam Deck 2: Episode 2"
- Dota players: dunno what you are saying about. We literally have patch 7.34d now
- The release date just got one week later.
- But we can get 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1, 2.2.2
Just please let us update/download with the screen turned off or in hibernate. That's a big annoyance for me.
- I could see turning off the screen, but I don't see how you could download with a system hibernated.
  
  Next we will have people complain about how putting the device to sleep still drains the battery.
- You can set the brightness to 0.. it's just Linux
  
  Still feels a bit dumb doesn't it?
  I mean, even the 3DS and the Vita were capable of performing this with the screen totally off (the 3DS lid closed).
  And we are all used to doing this as a background task after all, I can even imagine myself having to have the screen on all the times to download the endless updates of my PS4 🫥
- Yes like wtf
Hold up, they’re releasing an OLED version????
- Yup, and it even has better battery life and is a bit lighter!
That title made me think valve was going philosophical
Isn't that the excuse they used for half life 3 as well?
- Maybe that stands true yet.
  Heck, I feel like I'm missing out because I never played Half Life games.
Then make a steam deck 1.5
- They have!
- They literally just did
I hope they make it smaller, it's too big to be appealing to me right now. But if they made it more PSP-size, then maybe...
- There are plenty of handhelds to fill that niche, the issue is they’re too underpowered to handle most games released in the last 15 years
- I just want them to bring the weight down a little bit. I’m ok with the size, but it’s a little too heavy.
  
  true, I hadn't thought about the density
More like it’s too expensive or can’t be manufactured at scale, but sure I guess it’s kind of the same thing.
- "Doesn't exist" is more accurate than that is.
  It's mobile. You can't just shove power at it to get the results you want. The alternatives have marginally higher power (mostly at higher power draw), but the performance difference is nowhere near enough to justify calling it a 2. There are not x86 chips capable of doing meaningfully better within the power envelope the Deck has to have to function.
  
  Yeah, the more powerful handhelds do it by dumping 75% more power into the APU for like a 30% power increase.
  It works for handling some more demanding games, but when you're draining the battery that quickly it doesn't feel like a portable game system anymore.
- No shit? You want to pay 800€ for a videogame console?
  
  At current currency conversion rates, that'd be $854.
  I'm sure the Neo Geo was up there, at least in inflation-adjusted terms.
  googles
  https://www.ign.com/articles/comparing-the-price-of-every-game-console-with-inflation
  Yeah, and apparently the 3DO actually slightly edged it out. $1,238.52 for the Neo Geo in 2020 dollars, and $1,246.96 for the 3DO.
  It looks like the Intellivision made it there, too, at $916.46.
  Now, granted, none of those dominated the market (though I remember a lot of kids who wished that they had a Neo Geo).
- You're not wrong, the Steam Deck was sold at a loss and there was that CPU shortage going on. I'm not sure if it's still an issue.

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