Progressive Leaders Warn Biden's Support for Gaza 'Slaughter' Risks Millions of Young Votes
Progressive Leaders Warn Biden's Support for Gaza 'Slaughter' Risks Millions of Young Votes
"Every day Biden chooses to fund genocide, he loses support," said Sunrise Movement.
From the perspective of realpolitik, I’m not convinced abandoning support for Israel will win him more votes from pro-Palestine groups than he loses from pro-Israel groups. Lots of moderate Americans support Israel implicitly.
Either way, it’s politically costly with no upside for him. I think Biden’s only hope on this file is for the Gaza war to end quickly before the next election, but I don’t see that happening. Looks like Israel’s plan is an indefinite multi-year occupation of Gaza under an authoritarian police state.
If you asked the average American what the difference was between Palestine, Hamas, Hezbollah and AL Queda, they wouldn't know. I'm not saying that's a good thing, but there sure are a lot of media articles that seem to be based on an American populace that doesn't match up to their logic.
In the perspective of realpolitik, he's fucked anyways. He's down >10 points with young voters, and currently below Trump in swing states polling (just 1 so far, could be meaningless as a metric, but still relevant). DNC will support Israel because they're a major political donor. The Ds went too hard to fast early in this conflict and it's too late to backpedal. He'll have to try really hard to either try to win back the young votes, or appeal to the moderates and never-Trump Republicans.
This whole election cycle is bizarre, nobody wants neither Trump nor Biden. Their favorability is abysmal, one's about to go to jail while the other appears to be half dead. I honestly wish we had decent 3rd party infrastructure and rank choice voting, but I don't think we'll be breaking through this 2 party bs this cycle.
If a third party stood any chance for president, this coming election would be the one. However, I wouldn't advise anyone to do so unless you really don't have the slightest preference somehow. There isn't a chance, it's just better than every other time but still 0.
Maybe looking for ceasefire? Accountability of how Isreal use billions of dollars? Maybe Nato can go there and slowly stop hamas with targetd attack?
There are a lot of options the biggest military in the world can decide on, and yet he doesn't show any sign of compassion or remorse of innocent human life.
Just FYI Israel isn't in NATO, though it is part of the Mediterranean Dialogue.
Electioneering a genocide will surely work in his favor.
I think neither will work in his favor politically. But honestly, given what I know about the American electorate, I unfortunately suspect that "pro-genocide" may be politically safer.
sure, they will all go vote for... the other guy with the exact same stance except even worse?
stupid claim
The third party (probably the Greens). Or not vote at all when they otherwise would have - that still means a lost vote for Biden. Young voters tend to be far less willing to accept the compromises imposed by first past the post voting systems.
The threat to Democrats is real.
Those people are stupid and will only make things worse for themselves.
If they do withhold votes which gets the Republican nominee elected, they’ll probably come to regret it if they have two brain cells to rub together.
People said for years to stop fucking around or we’ll lose abortion rights. Well….
Or they will vote for no one like I've seen so many do in the past. Stupid claim.
A-fucking-men.
They do this shit because they know they have us by the short hairs. "What are you going to do, vote for the actual fascists? You're going to vote for Mr.Corposhill bombyMcBombsalesman and like it."
So by not voting for Biden you’ll get trump. Trump just wants to ban all Muslims… so yea… good luck with that.
So by taking voters for granted you lose them. Condescend more, it will never stop working.
I am done voting for the lesser evil.
All it does is increase the overall evil.
We have been increasing the overall evil for FAR too long.
I saw comments just like this usher trump into office the first time.
you can be done with it as much as you like but that doesn’t change reality… FPTP is absolute shit: vote for the lesser evil or you get the greater evil… that’s just the way it is
want something different? you have to change the system first
that’s just reality. deal with it or vulnerable people die and hate wins
Vote harderer Melkath! This time will be different then the last 13 times. Promise. Trust the neoliberal plan. It hasn’t… failed……us……… yet.
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Have at it…
So, are they going to vote for a federal abortion ban, fascism, a hot civil war, and rollbacks of everything even marginally progressive?
Maybe some might because they just love to vote red, but at this time, there are other choices
I'm voting for Vermin Supreme. Don't know where I'll keep a pony but that's something I can worry about later.
I give this country fifty years before it splinters.
Tops.
We need your optimism.
Before? It's already been destroyed.
Can you imagine an ad with Biden's full throated support for Hamas/Palestine backed by pictures of the babies Hamas murdered in their cribs? Biden would get slaughtered for that.
I won’t have to imagine the ads with pictures of kids being pulled from the rubble in Gaza with graphics of Biden supporting a genocide, interspersed with audio of him speaking of beheaded babies and unreliable death counts. That’s going to happen.
Edit: Don’t think I didn’t notice “Hamas/Palestine” . They are not the same.
Edit: Don’t think I didn’t notice “Hamas/Palestine” . They are not the same.
Polling suggests that Palestinians support Hamas over Fatah 53% to 14% as of last year. If there were an election today, Hamas would take over the West Bank and retain control of Gaza.
I won’t have to imagine the ads with pictures of kids being pulled from the rubble in Gaza with graphics of Biden supporting a genocide, interspersed with audio of him speaking of beheaded babies and unreliable death counts. That’s going to happen.
In the primaries maybe, but not in the General.
I mean, sure, but what are we gonna do, vote for Kang?
Implement RCV, slay the 2-party system
Except the people who we need to implement it are rewarded by the duopoly
I'm a fan of Bucklin voting in particular, allowing equal and skipped rankings along a bounded range of 0 to twice the number of candidates, every candidate default of 0. Give people an offline digital interface to do the work, they confirm it, print it, check it and it gets scanned to be counted. Undecided if I think votes should be weighted by rank or not, maybe just for tiebreaker.