2y ago

Biden administration thinks Netanyahu may not last politically

www.politico.com

Netanyahu may not last, Biden and aides increasingly believe

Highlights: Joe Biden and top aides have discussed the likelihood that Benjamin Netanyahu’s political days are numbered — and the president has conveyed that sentiment to the Israeli prime minister in a recent conversation.

Biden has gone so far as to suggest to Netanyahu that he should think about lessons he would share with his eventual successor, the two administration officials added.

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I’ve got news for the Biden administration. Lashing themselves to a fascist ethnostate and participating in their genocidal campaign is going to have political consequences for themselves too.
- Unfortunately no it won't. Republicans are even worse about Israel than Democrats are, so unless someone who opposes Israel and can somehow gain mainstream support enters the race, Biden's probably gonna win.
  
  Why do people act like voter turnout isn't ever an issue leading up to an election?
  A third of our country usually don't vote. It's been less than a decade since trump managed to win because Clinton depressed turnout... For lots of Americans, casting a ballot can take hours after a full day of work. Potential positive rewards is always more effective than potential punishments, that's just human psychology.
  And I don't know if you've noticed, but someone doesn't need to win the popular vote to be president. A couple states decided by less than 100,000 votes can swing for any number of reasons that dont exist in a vacuum. It doesn't need to be a single one issue. A bunch that have small effects is just as effective as a single large one.
  Like, man, that shit just happened. We all just lived through that.
  
  Fracturing your coalition (even if you are only cleaving off a few percent) in a political environment as tight as we have, is really problematic.
  
  Many Muslim Americans have more interests in common with Republicans than Democrats - except for identity. Identity is only one component of a person's decision of how to vote.
  Biden is endangering far more than he seems to appreciate.
  That you say "probably gonna win." is a risk I'm loathe to take.
Not surprising, Netanyahu was facing fairly large protests against his authoritarian actions before the war started. Protests against Israel’s judicial overhaul kick off at Supreme Court a day before crucial hearing. This was 11 September 2023, just 3 weeks before the war escalated.
- Nobody should have the amount of power or weild it for as long as he has. He's corrupt through and through and he needs to go. Nobody who has the power he has would be uncorrupted
Then why are we backing his every move
- Why do you assume we (the USA) are? I think it's far more likely that there are disagreements and negotiations going on which are not being announced publicly, because the public announcement of such things wouldn't send the right message.
  
  Yes, god forbid that we send a message that humans matter in any meaningful way. Anyway I’m glad to hear that Biden has a secret plan that contradicts nearly all of his actions and rhetoric to date.
  
  Negotiations while giving him a shitton of money are still backing his every move.
- Investments that are already in place is my guess. The u.s wants to keep Israel as an ally but knows that Netanyahu needs to go, so they may be becomingy Israel but are starting to seperate the two.
Counterpoint: Netanyahu know this and he won’t let this “war” stop so he can stay in power
He won't. Bibi will be gone when the shooting stops. Israel has a history of these things.
- And by then the genocide will be complete
  
  I really am tired of throwing an important term like genocide around. When you say "Stop Palestinian Genocide" ask why the Palestinian population in Gaza increased by 100% in 20 years (The pop birth must decline for genocide). Why is there no prerequisite systemic mass murder of EVERY ONE OF THE 2.1 MILLION GAZANS? ... like Rwanda, Bosnia, Cambodia, or what HAMAS tried on 10-7. Try some facts before you throw around terms you obviously don't understand.
"Your political days are numbered... man, I'm tired. Here's 50 billion dollars. Now my political days are numbered too."

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