Just some fun size comparisons
Not sure how accurate it is but given the figures I vaguely recall, this feels pretty accurate.
Realizing that the Discovery is longer than any of these ships really puts shit into perspective
Realizing that the Discovery is longer than any of these ships really puts shit into perspective
All it puts into perspective is how much the nu-trek folks (both Disco and JJ-Trek) lost the plot on ship size. It makes no sense that either the Discovery or the Kelvin-timeline Enterprise would be significantly different in size from the TOS Enterprise.
(This doubly pisses me off because I play Star Trek Online, where the devs implemented canon ship sizes and the Kelvin Enterprise stands out as being stupidly out of scale with the rest of the game.)
All it puts into perspective is how much the nu-trek folks (both Disco and JJ-Trek) lost the plot on ship size. It makes no sense that either the Discovery or the Kelvin-timeline Enterprise would be significantly different in size from the TOS Enterprise.
sigh
The Discovery is specifically larger due to the unique propulsion method that they employ. The normal Crossfield-Class was seen otherwise in Strange New Worlds and has significantly shorter nacelles, backing up the theory that the Discovery/Glenn were only as long as they were due to the spore drive.
The Kelvin Enterprise was also specifically designed in response to a random incursion that destroyed one of their vessels. The Narada had been loaded with Romulan/Borg tech by the Tal Shiar as established in a canonical comic prequel that explains what happened to Nero before they ended up going back in time. That Enterprise was also built on Earth as opposed to in space. The technology from the Narada, which was only gleaned through scanning data and debris from the attack, was then used to create the Enterprise.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that it doesn't make sense. They've given plenty of explanations and I get not liking them. That's fine. But it does make sense when you actually look at the reasons given.
Also, as a fellow player of Star Trek Online, if you want to complain about 'stupidly out of scale' then the Kelvin Enterprise is the LEAST of your concerns. There are so many massively and wildly stupidly sized ships that it makes no damn sense to begin with.
I mean, I do like so-called "Nu-Trek", but at the end of the day this is kind of a tail-wagging-the-dog response. You can explain just about anything in lore after the fact, but when the rubber hits the road the real explanation is that someone in a Hollywood design team said "We want it to be BIGGER," and then left it to the people who cared enough to find a reason why it would be justified.
Far easier to just suspend your disbelief a bit further, I think. Yeah, Discovery is weirdly big. It also flies through space by a man infused with a giant tardigrade's DNA sending the whole ship from place to place through willpower and a mushroom trip. If you can accept the second one, it kind of feels like the fact that the ship is a larj boye isn't that much of a stretch.
Facts and memes. A wonderful combination.
Huh, somehow I always imagined the Sovereign class to be bigger than the Galaxy...
Sovereign was more combat orienteted than the Galaxy class ship so it was heavily streamlined, giving it a smaller profile and silhouette to make for a harder target. However while not as large as the Galaxy class, it was longer. You can just barely make it out in that image due to the placement of Enterprise-E sitting just ahead of the D. Galaxy came in at 641m long but Sovereign eeked in just over at 685m making it the longest ship in the fleet at the time. I say at the time because the Crossfield class (or at least the Discovery/Glenn with their extended nacelles) comes in at 740-780m long!
All I got from this is that the Galaxy is thiccc af with more C's than i can use within the bounds of civilized discourse.
Enterprise D ... still the ship for me ... I'd swoon after those curves in any quadrant.
Need the Orville in this
It would be nice to see the NX-01 in there
If I made this, I would have. The J probably not because it was from an alternate potential timeline. Then again I'd also have added stuff like the Botany Bay and the Europa.
Throw the -J in there, just for the hell of it
I stand by my head canon that Galaxy class ships are equipped to deposit saucers on planets to establish starter colonies. It's already basically a floating city in space.
Did not realize that the Intrepid class was that much smaller than a Sovereign class. I though it was maybe slightly smaller.
Scale is always hard to tell in Star Trek when you rarely have an on screen reference.
Pictured against a sparkly holiday jumper worn by your mum.
I have an inexplicable fondness for the Excelsior class. Both NX-2000 and NCC-1701-B are fun to watch. I would've liked to see more of them.
(I know there's a bunch in the Dominion War battle scenes, but never for very long.)
You forgot one
Sneaky Defiant! Took me a moment.
That the Defiant is as big as the entire saucer on the Constitution class is wild. I thought it was much much smaller
It's even funnier when you hear the Sisko's initial description of the defiant.
And also
Meanwhile it's almost as big as the OG Enterprise which did in fact have a regulation size bowling alley inside.
So all that space, basically just for engines and guns on the Defiant.
I always forget just how large the defiant is. I feel like there is rarely anything close enough in the camera shots to get a good idea of scale. Other than DS9 I mean.
Just goes to show how much bigger all of the ships got after TOS.
Tough little ship!
Little?