lemmy.ml and hexbear.net has been banned in China
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/6763330
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/6763328
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/6137607
now users must use VPN for login lemmy.ml
The great misunderstanding of hard left leaning western folks is that neither Russia nor China are socialist or communist.
Just like their hard right leaning counterparts they’re stuck in a mindset from the first half of the past century.
They don't really believe Russia is socialist to any degree, they just support it because it (supposedly) opposes the western hegemony, USA/NATO, etc.
Basically the same logic as that of pro-Russian right-wingers.
I had a bunch of hexbear and ml's tell me russian war crimes in Berlin were "Nazi myths". Apparently the Nazis had more influence over the world of historical academia after they lost than Russia.
Also other allied war crimes did happen and weren't Nazi myths.
I think I'm confused. I haven't seen any left leaning people support Russia or China. It's right leaning people that support them. What am I missing? Also I've never seen any left leaning people say Russia and China are actually socialist or communist since the 80s or 90s. I've seen right leaning people claim that lefties believe that but never any examples in real life.
Left and right is not a defined group, it’s a name and any group can pretend/think they belong to it.
The most support for China is basic materialist analysis: they've heavily invested in housing, high speed rail, electric car infrastructure, and green energy. Coincidentally: all rather related.
But that is generally the support associated with China: a materialist analysis, usually, if not always, regarding infrastructure.
Depends which hard left, I know hard/far left people who hate them
Pro politolog here
This is too funny. What a great post to wake up to lmfao.
China*
Please stop saying "mainland China". It implies Taiwan is part of China, at least to some.
Please stop saying “mainland China”. It implies Taiwan is part of China, at least to some.
It means without Hong Kong.
Mainland China refers to China sans Hong Kong and Macao, yes. Because you have to distinguish and "Mainland China" is a whole lot less typing than "China but without Hong Kong and, oh yeah, Macao too".
Hong kong also isn't part of china
The official name of Taiwan's government is Republic of China, and it's the continuation of the government that controlled all of China before Mao's uprising.
So I'm not sure your argument makes sense. They claim to be the legitimate Chinese government in their own name.
I also read it to mean not HK. Is that not right?
Not HK and Hong Kong.
Also some people in Hainan will refer to the "mainland" as opposed to Hainan island.
It turns out words can be used in multiple ways. It's not all about Taiwan.
Guess they're not tankies then.
Not tankie enough*
This is hilarious to me. I haven't really had much opportunity to interact with them before so just today I got into a discussion about how Americans weren't the most propagandized people in the world because N Korea exists. Apparently NK is a pretty cool place and I just refuse to believe it bc I'm a propagandized American (oh sorry, they say USian for some reason).
lmfao the Xinny the pooh boot suckers are banned from their favourite dictatorship?
Leopards ate tankies' faces!
I tested two services that supposedly allow you to check if a site is blocked in China. I don't know with certainty how accurate these tools are in general, but I can say they gave me consistent results for lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, and lemmy.ca. Hexbear and lemmy.ml register as blocked, while other instances go through.
https://www.comparitech.com/privacy-security-tools/blockedinchina/
Results: lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ca, lemmy.world
https://www.vpnmentor.com/tools/test-the-great-china-firewall/
Results: lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ca. Lemmy.world could not be parsed using this tool, perhaps due to not being set to work with that TLD.
Not lemmygrad though, how odd
Lemmygrad hasn't been spotted yet. When it is spotted, it will be blocked as well, like literally every social media site that reaches the authoritarians' awareness.
What community was in posted at? I hate how these post URLs don't show the community in the URL.
EDIT: The modlog is interesting. Very sporadic activity up until a few days ago, and then the mod is cleaning up posts, comments, getting rid of moderators, etc.
It was in AskLemmy iirc. Which, yeah, definitely the wrong place to post that.
Critical support for the comrades in China for having to put up with those instances for so long.
That's fucking hilarious, if true.
Common China internet L.
"Papa China is just gonna go buy some milk, lemmy.ml, you're in charge, don't let hexbear use the stove or any knives while I'm out!"
[disappears forever]
Ironic.
LMAO that's hilarious
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Heh. Ironic.
Must be doing something right.
That's my stance.
Are there any lemmy instances within China? 🤔
Lemmy.world still works
It was only a matter of time
抱歉 - 這可能是我的錯
Some idiots out there think this meme is racist. Lol.
我的錯
你TMD做了什麼??? :)
I'm not happy with this development, but I'm slightly amused by the irony being that lemmy.ml is pro-china and has been moderated as such.
Hexbear might as well be the CCP propaganda wing, this development is fucking hilarious
I was curious what lemmy.ml has to say about this but it seems the linked post was deleted in the meantime 🤡
It's my fault. I signed up for it before I realized it was a pro China instance and the other day I said I'm not a Communist.
The poster was banned for trolling but I saw a comment showing that it is real.
I don't understand why the pro China tanked subs would get banned but not the rest.
Even China is embarrassed. You ever had someone defend you but really poorly? Ya.
They might spread western ideas of communism in China. That’s not something China can allow.
Right? I and others were also banned from talking about China and Uyghurs on world news on lemmy.ml
https://lemmy.world/post/5697017
How is lemmy.ml pro china?
ML stands for Marxist leninist, which means they love authoritarian regimes that don't like the US. The number of them that unironically stan Stalin is baffling.