AOC's campaign office vandalized with red paint in NYC
AOC's campaign office vandalized with red paint in NYC
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AOC's campaign office vandalized with red paint in NYC
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CCTV footage will likely show the perps to be off duty cops, lol
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Off duty? Nah. Those motherfuckers probably got paid overtime for it.
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The footage will be lost before it can show any duty cop.
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Off duty cops are rarely pro-Palestine supporters
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Please add the qualifier:
If found...
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Perhaps I'm not up to speed, but she was one of the first reps to call Israel's actions a genocide. What gives?
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It's more bad-faith horseshit to get leftists to destroy one another, which a lot of leftists love to lap up because their critical thinking isn't real strong and they love nothing more than being "holier than" some kind of previously respected icon.
MTG's amendment left intact the funding for offensive weapons, but cut the funding for defensive weapons for Israel. So there is literally no way AOC could win. Leaving aside the fact that it was a kooky MTG amendment that was never going to pass in the first place... If she voted for the amendment, then everyone who is currently screaming that she's a fake leftist who supports genocide could say "See? SHE VOTED FOR KEEPING ISRAEL'S FUNDING INTACT, SHE SUPPORTS GENOCIDE!" Since she voted against it, they are currently screaming "See? SHE VOTED AGAINST DEFUNDING ISRAEL, SHE SUPPORTS GENOCIDE!"
It's just more can't-win, let's-eat-the-leftest-person-because-we're-super-leftist-I-promise horseshit.
Here's AOC voting against funding for Israel, in an actual bill that was actually a non-Hobson's-choice opportunity to vote against aid for Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/biden-meets-with-aoc-in-wake-of-her-vote-against-military-aid-for-israel/
And her voting against the actual funding bill providing aid to Israel: https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2025212
I've also seen people say Bernie is a Zionist, because he says "ethnic cleansing" instead of "genocide." Both Bernie and AOC's vocal opposition to genocide doesn't matter to these people. Actually, it's that genuine leftism that they represent that makes them dangerous, and worthwhile to engineer cooked-up horseshit to use to get other people to turn on them, so the Marco Rubios of the world can take over un-contested.
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Spot on. It would have played out the same way no matter what she did.
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Meanwhile Republicans figured out decades ago that alienating your own party (even the "radicals") doesn't get you elected, and simply protesting the chosen candidate by just not voting doesn't actually help you achieve your goals. It's a hard pill for establishment Democrats and leftists to swallow, but it's truth.
Republicans weren't doing Nazi salutes on stage at presidential inaugurations until recently, but they have been pandering to the far right for a very long time. They've gradually moved further and further right, while the left has been ignoring their own base in order to welcome aboard the fiscal conservatives (and their donations) slowly jumping ship.
Paul Weyrich created the new right movement. He voted Republican for his entire life, but he also seemed to really hate the establishment Republican party. He was quite vocal about it, and as every election year approached, he would start shit talking Republicans for not focusing enough on conservative social issues.
Before Weyrich and the creation of a moral majority, "fiscal conservatives/Rockefeller Republicans," who didn't really care about social issues were the backbone of the Republican party. Abortion was mainly just an issue conservative Catholics and nobody else cared about. Once Weyrich created his movement though, he used public pressure to change the party little by little. It took his whole life, and he didn't actually live to see the absolute batshit fruits of his labor, but without Paul Weyrich, there would be no Donald Trump and no Project 2025.
There would also be way fewer rich conservatives who have pressured the democratic party to embrace a move towards moderate centrism.
1983:Righting Reagan's Revolution
The 1980 presidential election rewarded incompetence, and that incompetence moved right into the White House. If you have to find out who makes the decisions over there, you will go insane. I challenge you to go to the White House and find out. You'll be in St. Elizabeths in short order, and I'll come visit you."
He thinks Reagan has ignored issues most important to Weyrich: school prayer, an end to abortion, pornography, government "hand-outs"--issues that appeal to what he calls "cultural" conservatives, grass-rooters most concerned about family, God and country. That concern includes free enterprise, a balanced budget and a pre-eminent weapons system for America
1998: Religious Right, Frustrated, Trying New Tactic on G.O.P.
Early in March, Paul Weyrich, the godfather of social conservatives, summoned about 25 prominent leaders from the religious and political right for a secret meeting in his office here overlooking the rail yards behind Union Station.
They fumed that they had been used and abused, like some cheap date. In one election after another, they said, conservative foot soldiers had dutifully worked the phone banks, walked the precincts and turned out masses of voters for Republican candidates who had promised action on issues like abortion, pornography and homosexuality. And the Republicans, they complained, had consistently failed to deliver.
2000: Hard Right Burning for Bush?
Perhaps it was because he was recovering from painful back surgery, but a few weeks before the Republican convention, Paul Weyrich, a founder of the religious right, was awful grumpy about George
He did this kind of shit nonstop until he eventually shaped the right into what it is today. If you didn't know who he was, and you just heard the way he described his frustration towards the Republican party when he first got involved in politics back in the 70s, you might just as easily think you were listening to a leftist complain about Democrat centrists in 2025.
Weyrich hailed as conservative pioneer
“In the early ‘70s, when most conservatives were reduced to wringing their hands and resigning themselves to life in the political wilderness, Paul just seemed to know what was needed to break the liberal stranglehold,” recalled Feulner.
Paul Weyrich: Father of a New Right
Weyrich waved aloft a monograph from the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), a right-of-center think tank. The study carefully examined both sides of a controversial issue—the federal funding of a supersonic transport plane (the SST). The Senate had just voted 51-46 to halt government support of the SST, which some conservative hawks favored to maintain U.S. technological superiority over the Soviets. The AEI report arrived in Allott’s office after the Senate debate.
A puzzled Weyrich contacted William Baroody, Sr., AEI president and a member of his church. “Great study,” he said. “But why didn’t we get it sooner so we could use it in the debate?” Baroody explained: “We didn’t want to try to affect the outcome of the vote.” Unspoken was the admission that AEI didn’t want to be too “political” and jeopardize its tax-exempt status. For one of the few times in his life, Weyrich was speechless.
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I mean... it really doesn't take much to get people on the left to turn on each other. It's kind of a historic problem with leftist ideological groups in general - they're awfully quick to declare each other the wrong type of leftist, or not leftist enough, and then refuse to cooperate.
There certainly are outside provocateurs, but I wouldn't leap to that conclusion in every occasion. Hanlon's razor applies.
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That's some crazy shit to try and distract from the Epstein files. How the fuck do you know if your "ally" is using a weapon defensively or offensively.
Stupid shit.
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Wait, I looked it up and found this amendment introduced by MTG that AOC voted no on. It didn't seem to have to do with the defensive weapons at all.
It was to defund the Israeli Cooperative Programs. https://www.congress.gov/amendment/119th-congress/house-amendment/55/all-info?s=a&r=3
I googled that program and found the below.
Israeli Cooperative Programs refer to various initiatives and collaborations that involve cooperative efforts between Israel and other countries, organizations, or communities. These programs can span multiple sectors, including agriculture, technology, education, and research. Here are some key aspects:
Agricultural Cooperatives: Israel is known for its advancements in agricultural technology and practices. Cooperative programs often focus on sharing these innovations with other countries, particularly in areas like water management, irrigation, and sustainable farming techniques. Technology and Innovation: Israel has a robust tech ecosystem, often referred to as "Startup Nation." Cooperative programs may involve partnerships with foreign companies or governments to foster innovation, share technology, and develop new products or services. Research and Development: Many Israeli universities and research institutions engage in cooperative programs with international partners to conduct joint research projects, share knowledge, and develop new technologies. Cultural and Educational Exchanges: These programs may also include cultural exchanges, educational partnerships, and initiatives aimed at promoting understanding and collaboration between Israel and other nations. Economic Cooperation: Israel engages in various economic cooperative agreements that facilitate trade, investment, and economic development with other countries.Overall, Israeli Cooperative Programs aim to leverage Israel's expertise and innovations to foster collaboration and mutual benefit across different sectors and regions.
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Bernie is a Zionist because he supports the continued existence of Israel and a two state solution. That’s unacceptable to many pro Palestinian activists who want the destruction of Israel.
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Any substantive cut on Israel’s funding needs to be made if it is introduced. I literally don’t care what they’re defunding or who introduced the bill; the less my taxpayer dollars go to genocidal psychos, the better. End of story.
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"I've also seen people say Bernie is a Zionist, because he says "ethnic cleansing" instead of "genocide."
Liberals when they're both on the same page but use slightly different rhetoric 😡😡😡
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So there is literally no way AOC could win
You know some people voted against it, right?
AOC’s vocal opposition to genocide
Actions speak louder than words. She's supposed to be the vanguard of the "new democrats" that are supposedly going to save the party.
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This is a bad faith interpretation of why leftists are upset. No one is saying the bill was enough. However, it would have had the effect of blocking Israel's defense aid, and in this desperate moment where Israel is being allowed to starve a whole people to death with no repercussions, it was something we could have done to mitigate their freedom to continue to do so. In her statement, AOC didn't just mention the offensive-vs.-defensive aid thing--she also brought up protecting innocent civilians, implying that not providing the defensive aid would result in innocent Isrealis dying. In the context of innocent Palestinians being a day or two from mass death, that is a fucking cop-out.
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TL;DR is at MTG put forth a bill to remove funding for Israel's missile defense system from the US budget. 429/435 House reps voted against it, including AOC, but then she made a very tone-deaf tweet basically saying "The bill was trying to remove funding for Israel's ability to defend themselves from the people they're genociding, of course I voted against it!" and it's causing massive backlash against her.
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Yeah, it’s amazing nobody in this pedantic thread mentioned that awful tweet. That tweet reframes the whole argument, if you ask me.
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If I had to guess, some kind of right wing nonsense, probably done by a Trump supporter. Any truly progressive person wouldn’t resort to vandalism in the first place
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Any truly progressive person wouldn’t resort to vandalism in the first place
Do you at all think we're in a civilized and rational world? The best way to prevent your ideology from being harmed by the actions of a few is to not fucking lie or live in delusion. Call it out, reject it. Don't stick your fingers in your ears and say "OUR SIDE WOULD NEVER" or you look the fool.
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This is such a dumb take lol. Here's your Trump supporters bro
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It’s probably some right winger trying to attack her from the left in an effort to split her support. Attacks from the right make her stronger, so they’ll attack from the left to make leftists abandon her.
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And reading the comments on Lemmy, it's working.
This is what the left does best. Eat itself.
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As if the US had a “left”
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"If you're saying I voted for military funding, you are lying," she wrote. "Drag me for my positions all you want, but lying about them doesn't make you part of the 'left.' If you believe neo-Nazis are welcome and operating in good faith, you can have them."
She did though, right?
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Like, the most devils advocate I can be for her vote is that she's arguing that we shouldn't take away their shield, we should take away their spear.
To which... I still don't see the logic. Because if you can block with one hand you're free to stab with the other. If all you have is stabby implements, you got no way to deal with when they stab back.
They'd be forced to be less aggressive, which they seem intent to be.
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The best explanation I heard was that any funding at all, even if it's for a "defensive" weapon, is still funding that makes doing their genocide easier.
Another good take I heard is something along the lines of "they have healthcare and we don't, they can fund their fucking iron dome themselves".
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I'm tired of giving them fucking ANYTHING. They routinely brutalize a people they keep stateless. It would be bad enough not putting diplomatic pressure on them to try to stop let alone give them billions of our tax dollars every year.
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She also throws Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and Al Green under the bus to make this stupid rant.
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What kind of perpetrator takes a photo of their activity... Do they want to get caught?
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Someone whose primary purpose is the cred and self-aggrandization, and not the political impact
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AOC supports what’s going on in Gaza? lol. Wut.
She literally just voted against throwing more money at the Iron Dome.
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The other way round, she voted against blocking military aid for the iron dome
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-861796
https://www.newarab.com/news/aoc-defends-decision-back-fresh-us-military-aid-israel
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Didn't she literally vote against the MTG amendment that stripped all funding from Israel?
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See, that's how the propaganda works. She voted against the MTG amendment that stripped a tiny tiny fraction of the funding from Israel. Which was always going to fail, pretty much unanimously, because MTG. And then, when the whole bill (with whole funding for Israel) came to the floor, she voted against it. And also, separate bills which are just for funding Israel in the past
But it's been consistently presented to you with wording that makes it sound like she had a chance to strip all funding from Israel, and she decided not to. Search "horseshit" in this comments section, it's a little complicated, but basically, no she literally didn't vote against what you described.
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I see a potential backdrop for a photo shoot.
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She should just paint the place red. And when they do it in another color… paint it in that color.
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My personal opinion she should have voted against funding the genocidal regime of Israel and this is the consequence 🤷
They're committing a genocide. No amount of wishy-washy Behavior about whether or not is real people deserve a right to defense matters anymore when they've systematically slaughtered 200,000 Palestinians and these defensive systems are enabling that Slaughter.
Israel would be much less bold if they didn't have their missile system to protect them from any retaliatory strikes like the strike on Iran.
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She literally voted to keep sending weapons to Israel. I dont think NYers should vote her out but FFS what's going on when Margaret Taylor Green is the sympathetic rogue in Congress and AOC is the faithful party follower?
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Here's her vote against the appropriations bill in full, including both the offensive and defensive weapons systems funding: https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2025212
Search the comments for "Hobson's choice" for a more complete explanation
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MTG isn't a sympathetic rogue, she's a isolationist nationalist at her core. That is, any money leaving the country = bad. Just happens to align with palestinian interests on this specific topic.
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She's also specifically antisemitic. The real kind, not the AIPAC definition.
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She basically just does whatever Russia tells her to, and if there are no orders, she wanders around like the village drunk causing trouble. I don't really know why she got involved in this particular thing, and maybe this sounds like raving paranoia, but I actually think her being set up to introduce an amendment which could be used to criticize leftist politicians for being "pro-genocide" no matter which way they voted on it is a moderately likely possibility. I mean, look at what's happening, anyone who wants to do that with it is able to do a pretty effective job with it.
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TBF, they were missiles for the Iron Dome defense system. They technically could be used offensively but I don't think Israel is setup for that and it would be a very inefficient use of the tech.
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The system that helps Israel defend it's stolen land from the people they stole it from?
She voted to actively hinder Palestine's ability to retaliate against their genociders?
There is no "defense" ability for Israel. To defend it is an offensive measure because it is an occupying force. They do not have the right to that land.
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Oh yeah, the Iron Dome "defense" system.
The US taxpayer-funded missile system Israel uses to justify whatever offensive mission they want because they'll never face retaliation. Regardless of your beliefs, the US has zero obligation to fund Bibi's "defense," arguably less so than their offense, and maybe a thinner security blanket would help them behave themselves.
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They could reduce the money they spent on offensive weapons and operations to buy the iron dome missiles.
This argument only makes sense if Israel could not otherwise afford to defend itself.
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According to the UK, splashing something with paint to express a political opinion means that you are a terrorist.