Stop Killing Games has exceeded 1.3 million signatures!

I'm so glad to see that this has gotten so far. When I saw Ross' video on it I thought it was probably over. I hope some good change will come of this in the future.

Who is "Ross"?
- VideogameRoss is a youtube guy who really pioneered this whole movement. He has a series devoted to really old niche games that is really interesting (Ross' Game Dungeon). I'd highly reccomend looking into his standard content and the don't kill games afterward.
  Edit: Also his voiceover halflife series is likely the best protagonist commentary series ever.
- Creator of Freeman's Mind, Civil Protection, Ross' Game Dungeon, and Dead Game News. Generally short humerous videos focused on video games and the industry. Accursed Farms is his website with all his content. He started the Stop Killing Games movement.
- from Friends obviously

So… when do we get to play Concord? I assume that’s what this is all about.

Likely never, the intiative is not pushing for retroactive legal changes, it is pushing for new regulations / legal standards going forward.
Thankfully for publishers and unfortunately for us, it is not retroactive. But I do wish that it was.
- if the game you bought isnt really yours, than sailing the high seas isnt really theft. I love the EU for their consumer rights agendas.
- Looks like it’s time for the reverse engineering folks to come in.

A fair chunk will have come from the US. I would not be surprised to see a 20% drop in the end. Hope this goes somewhere for everyone’s sakes. And as always, avoid signing if you’re not eligible!

No, no no.
You have to input your name, address, and various ways of establishing your EU member state, such as an EU electronic visa/id, or your specific EU state drivers liscence or tax id or some such, and the form makes it very obvious you must actually be an EU citizen.
Examples:
Poland
Portugal
Estonia
Its possible there could be spam or accidental/malformed inputs... but if you are putting fake info into an official government portal, especially en masse, thats potentially a number of crimes, and if its a genuine mistake from an EU citizen, it seems like there is a review process where people will be contacted and allowed to fix up their info.
Also, technically, there are a few countries with more lax submission requirements, such as the Netherlands, likely due to more intense personal privacy laws... but its not like this system is not logging people's IPs, not like they won't be taking that into acount.
This isn't a change.org petition, its an official EU government portal for a core process of democracy.
Knowingly falsifying info on this is again, potentially a large number of crimes, as if you say lied on voting registration, or lied to Social Security or your US state's unemployment assistance system.
- I wouldn't put it past American gamers to make stuff up.
My understanding is you need to input identification data, like a driver's license just as an example, to sign.
They expect some invalidating, hence aiming for over the million, but why do you think a "fair chunk" will be from USA specifically?
- it’s just name/age/address. And I expect a decent chunk to be from outside the US because people are terrible at following directions when an issue pertains to them.
- It's a popular proposal, and gamers like to game the system.
I feel kinda helpless as an American watching the petition grow. I wonder what would happen if an American petition got big, would corporate America kill it? Would it get traction? Idk...
- That's not really a thing here, the closest is a state level ballot initiative, which is supposed to be legally binding, but legislatures ignore/heavily modify them all the time.
- They’d let it grow to near 100% acceptance among relevant groups, then seed articles to split attention and truth, and then buy 60 senators for a bag of bubblegum and two spools of string.
- Does the US have citizens iniatives?
  This isn't just a change.org petition. In the EU (and a lot of member countries) theres a system for citizens initiatives, which have the same or similar legal weight as laws proposed by legislators.
  That doesn't mean the proposed laws get passed, but it does mean the people can bypass the politicians in order to at least get something onto the starting line.
- Don't worry too much. If the EU passes legislation for this, you'll likely benefit from it as well, similar to all the other pro consumer things spilling over.

Glad to see all of Ross's effort wasn't in vain :)

Holy moly. Amazing to see the numbers keep going up after the goal was met.

This has the same chance of moving the needle as petitioning congress to lower their salaries.

The industry doesn’t give a shit if you don’t like what they’re doing. They know damn well you’ll keep shoveling money into their banks regardless of what they do.

It’s the same shit YouTube is doing. No matter what end-user insulting, batshit insane decision they make, everyone will continue to use their product and do all their advertising for them.

Oh, and by they way- Be sure to like and share this!

Kind of true, but the EU is not America, so don't apply the same standards. In the US it's extremely difficult to find a single politician that is not a completely corrupt criminal. The EU, on the other hand, is filled with a lot of politicians that also prioritize their positions and comfortable lives, but at least generally have somewhat positive intentions.
As for the European Citizens' Initiatives - they are very serious and usually result in actual legislation. Of course, there's no guarantee that this specific petition will lead to consumer protections. The only guarantee is that the European Comission will consider and talk about this. Afterwards, they'll negotiate with the lobbies and sometime later we - citizens of the EU - will get to write public feedback about the Comission's proposals in a post on their website, that may or may not be taken into consideration.
Overall it's still a fairly corrupt, far from ideally functioning system, but it's nowhere near the level of rot that the US is throwing out on full display. Despite the MEPs primarily looking out for their own best interests, we regularly receive more and more laws that benefit regular folk and not corporations. Meanwhile the last time the US has seen any real pro-people change was what, 40 years ago? The EU may be far from perfect, but please do not put it on the same shelf as America. There's no comparison to be made.

We did it! high fives self on the other side of the world

These posts are borderline spam, just to save a few shitty live service games.

https://www.stopkillinggames.com/
If you have time to complain, you have time to sign! Not EU citizen? Then spread the word!
- no thx
If you're gonna be a troll you can at least be good at it.
- It’s every other day now, without any real milestones, just some progress.
I'm actually going to remove my downvote and reserve judgement until a response.
What games do you play, and what games do you think this movement is targeting?
- Thankee-sai for your generous and condescending offer! But please, downvote. It‘s not about games that never need an internet connection, but I‘m not against the petition.