Republicans and Democrats in Secret Talks to Create a Third Party
Republicans and Democrats in Secret Talks to Create a Third Party
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Disgruntled Republicans sick of being bullied by Donald Trump and Democrat centrists imperiled by the Left are secretly having conversations about forming a third party in American politics, The Swamp can exclusively reveal.
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They should rebrand to be clearer:
Progressive Party Regressive Party Status Quo Party
Better yet...
Forward Reverse Neutral
The only party worth talking about is the Guillotine Party.
Yeah, the problem was mostly that the two parties so far were "full throttle" and "no throttle", and half of these guys are upset that someone found the brakes, while the other half would like to continue on mostly full throttle without overheating the engine because they want long-lasting fascism instead of breaking down on the side of the highway to hell.
@Redditsux if a third party was anything other than a manipulative plot, it would start in the states, gain traction for its stances and success in delivering, and spread to other states.
Any national, top down attempt to form a third party is either psyops or a fool's power grab.
@UrbanHermit @Redditsux Yes! Successful 3rd parties must work from the ground up, not from the top down every four years. It's hard work at the local and state level.
Any assertion about how a "successful" third party works is by nature purely speculative.
Wouldn’t that only be true if the third party was running a brand new slate of candidates? If the Republicans and Democrats are in secret talks to form a third party, it’s likely that a whole bunch of incumbents plan to break off from their parties to join the third party. They don’t need to win an election to do that, they could do it right now.
Of course their old parties would try to defeat them in the next election, but if these incumbents have been getting elected for many years then they’d still be hard to unseat even in a different party. Especially so if these members’ electorates are already disgruntled with the existing parties.
So a right wing ruse to further fragment the opposition? Yeah, I figured
In other words a spoiler party.
It’s not a spoiler when the neolibs do it. Progressives are the ones who have to vote blue no matter who.
I'm confused, I thought they didn't like each other? Almost as if it's all fake sentiment and the real game is the corporate sponsorship. Watching Obama yuck it up with Trump lately was a slap in face. Holy shit, could it be any more obvious. You already have alternatives to the status quo, just vote for them.
First past the post is not democracy, it's kleptocracy.
These people need to get behind electoral reforms then. There’s no reason another party is going to do better than the existing third parties. There’s a reason there has never in American history been more than two viable parties at once. The duopoly is fully enforced by our electoral system.
Sorta silly. The democrats are a bit more conservative than 70's republicans and part of the group is to get away from too left democrats???
Coming to you now from Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi.
Just heads in jars.
If it's the party of not taking bribes to go against the interests of their constituents, awesome. If it's anything else, get F'd. Get money out of politics, we are sick of you buying our votes and lying through your teeth all the way to the bank.
Nah, it seems like it's the party of taking all the bribes. Their problem with current politics is that voters are actually expecting Democrats to do something other than taking bribes while the Republicans are afraid that all the bribes they are taking will be meaningless if Trump becomes God-King.
Actually, this might not even be a bad thing, the corrupt leaving the Dem party on their own would actually free that platform to actually do something for once.
I'm calling it now. Musk will fund Cuomo or Adams for the Israel America Party's first candidate, for Mayor of NYC. The current record for election spending in NYC mayoral elections will get doubled. Media will be overwhelmed with racist, reactionary ads highlighting anything Mamdani has ever said, and some things he hasn't said, about Israel and linking him to Hamas and other terrorist organizations. Chuck Schumer will have no choice but to change parties, for the sake of Israel America and endorse the third party candidate.
Please do
Yeah I'm down for anything that breaks up the duopoly
This won't do it. The plurality system (often called "first past the post") inherently and inevitably leads to 2 parties. Whenever a third is introduced successfully, it quickly eliminates one of the previous parties.
Breaking up the supply duopoly requires a change in voting method, such as Ranked Choice or Approval methods. Those allow a third party without acting as a spoiler.
I've been kinda wanting the progressives to split off from dems for a while now but honestly the shitty dems splitting off from progressives is probably better. Let the people that actually want to do right by their constituents keep the democratic party. All those "center left" people can go create their bullshit third party and fuck off. You won't hear me complain.
Dumbass title that doesn't relate what the content is actually about.
This could be great for progressives. A lot of voters don't pay attention during primaries and only vote for Democrats because they're ostensibly left-wing. I can't see someone like Elissa Slotkin having any viability when she's not camping on the de facto progressive space.
Maybe they should plan to build a rocket to fly directly into the sun....for you know, scientific purposes. While they are busy discussion the color of one of the mid sections, Elon would already be halfway to the sun. Then we just stop the whole thing and move on to bigger and more beautiful bills. Good strategy right?
Honestly even two parties would be an improvement over what we currently have.
Adding a third party prior without any corruption and ethical reform will create another party with corruption and ethical issues.
This is how we know it's all a farce, they don't want a natural independant party like Bernie Sanders or AOC
Oh good, another neolib party to compete with the neolib party and the fascist party
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If the Democratic neocons are ready to come out of their closets we should be happy for them living their truth.