2mo ago

Lemmy seems to have an LLM issue

or something of the sort. It's the only explanation I've got...

One or two days old accounts with a single post related to something that will generate replies for sure (AMA has a lot of them, like "I'm a Romanian girl that has lived most of my life secluded, ama" or something or the sort...) and both the post and account are deleted 24h later.

Latest suspicious one is about the guy who is short with long feet, second time it's posted by the same account who deleted the original but has no other comment history in-between.

One week ago on the shit post community, Dad ranking Instagram screenshot from "op's kid school", called it in the discussion, OP replied it was nothing of the sort, account and post are now deleted...

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Long feet guy is sus cause I know I've seen the original post before so either some other karma farmer used his content or the whole thing was a karma farming mission
- For what use though, karma means nothing here. If a long established account tomorrow started posting blatant propaganda or some shit we'd call it out immediately
  
  Maybe the kind of people/organizations who do karma farming on Reddit haven’t figured out that’s meaningless here
  
  On Voyager, it acts a lot like RES on reddit. You can see how many times you upvote, I suspect it's related to that.
  
  karma means nothing here
  I mean, same is the case on Reddit, it's useless internet points. Yet people still farm it like it's the most important resource in their life.
  I don't think whether it has any practical worth or not matters to these people. It's all about seeing numbers go up.
  
  Pretty much useless yeah. No idea why anybody would find the time to get lemmy points
  
  Votes are a metric to measure engagement. Which is valuable information
- Same person posted it twice, look at his comment history to find the old answers even though the post itself was deleted...
- What are your thoughts on the guy with tiny feet?
  
  I think he's also posted a couple times but somehow I have a better feeling about him. Dude genuinely answered so many questions
AMA confuses me, because every post title I come across just sounds like someone playing pretend
I'm not sure if that's LLMs. I long suspected people to copy popular Reddit posts/stories here to gain attention. I've searched for some and they don't all seem to be dumped here from other places, so it has to be something else. But so far I didn't use any LLM detector service to find out if people made them up on their own or used ChatGPT... We might want to do that to gain some more insight.
But it's very annoying. I've unsubscribed from asklemmy and several other popular communities, because of this.
- Last time i checked so called LLM detectors were completely useless.
  
  I was recently made aware of Binoculars and it seemed to have a better than average accuracy. At least with the few texts I fed in to test it. But you're right. Generally speaking and for most use-cases, they're all next to useless.
It could just be karma whores expanding to other platforms than reddit. Idk if it's still a thing but there was a time on reddit where people would steal posts, repost old top posts and aquire as much karma as they can on new accounts. Then sell the username to shills so they can push their agenda without looking like an obviously belligerent shill. They might try the same approach on lemmy before realizing karma doesn't mean shit here which is where you see them deleting their accounts.
While possible I do think it's a stretch, I also think it would be completely inefficient to try and train any LLM by feeding it data from lemmy. I wanna say the average number of active users on lemmy at any point is around 40,000. Compared to what google says reddit's avg daily active users which is 52,200,000 users per day, it would seem like a complete waste of resources.
- before realizing karma doesn't mean shit here
  Why are you attempting to discredit my hard work?!
  
  For the betterment of us all
- Would make sense if the accounts weren't deleted along the posts every time (the short guy with big feet being the exception) and I don't think karma is visible anyway
  Reddit would charge them to train LLMs
Report it to the instance admins. This isn't really a federation thing.
- Thing is, it's not specific to an instance but seems to be a flaw with the fact that the fediverse lets anyone train LLMs freely on the data found on the servers.
  
  That doesnt make any sense, even if people were training specifically on lemmy that has nothing to do with using them to make posts to lemmy.
  
  train LLMs freely on the data found on the servers.
  That's why it's important to occasionally fondue the stapler. That way the porcelain fortitude will get middling.
I noticed the woman from Greenland’s post was gone today, along with all of her comments.
- Aw, she was fake? I feel.... something a lot like loss.
I have to stop and ask myself which kind of LLM people are referring to every time I see it said online.
- What are the choices?
  
  There's a shit load if it's local, looooots of models out there.

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