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FDA's top vaccine scientist is forced out

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FDA's top vaccine scientist is out, citing Kennedy's 'misinformation and lies'

Summary

Dr. Peter Marks, the FDA’s top vaccine regulator, resigned after reportedly being forced out amid clashes with Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

In his resignation letter, Marks wrote that Kennedy wanted "subservient confirmation of his misinformation and lies."

He criticized Kennedy’s stance on vaccines, accusing him of undermining public confidence.

Marks, who led the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research since 2016, played a key role in authorizing Covid vaccines and spearheading Operation Warp Speed. Kennedy, an anti-vaccine activist, has questioned the safety of Covid and MMR vaccines despite scientific consensus.

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- a few years
  Yeah no, measles wont take that long to take over the entire country. We really gotta do something fast.
  
  Temporal anomaly, Lemmist started writing that reply in early 2020. Something about transiting would-be assassins disrupting the flow of time; eggheads in the lab call it time-bulance. It's probably fine.
- We (US) don't even have a vaccine record system to my knowledge. I've had many vaccines starting from birth but the only record I have in the vast majority of cases is knowing it in my head. I remember getting a few like MMR (measles mumps rubella) vaccines as a young child, but there's almost zero chance I could prove that.
  Hell, the only reason I even know what I have gotten as an adult is I made a list a while back from memory and then confirmed what I could with doctors visit records.
  Your idea would keep me, a fully vaccinated individual, out of Europe. A place I want to escape to eventually.
  
  You are right that the US has no national vaccine database. However some States have their own records database. I know mine does for instance. They know all the vaccines I’ve ever had. This does depend on the doctor/provider/hospital reporting to the State that they administered you a vaccine.
  
  I wish the US had a vaccine record. The only record I have of my childhood vaccines are on some 30 year old pieces of paper in a folder somewhere in my house. A national record would make me feel safer about the possibility of a house fire and losing these papers.
  I like the covid vaccine record. Somehow, those have followed me digitally between towns without me having to produce the card. More of that please.
This is bad. This is really bad. We knew it was coming, but if the FDA is dismantled to syncopats, a lot of people will die.
Corporations will cheap out on food safety, drug safey, medical device safety, health recommendations, vaccines, research, you name it.
Preventable disease will spread. More people will die in hospitals on life saving equipment. Any exported medications (I don't know if that's a thing) will have to be blocked by the receiving countries.
- if the FDA is dismantled to syncopats
  Did you mean sycophants? Psychopaths? Something else?
  
  .... Yes
  I couldn't figure out how to spell it lol
  
  The rhythm is gonna get ya
- It's ok. RFK is going to be dope(d).
- This is the same logic people like Kennedy use. Talk to your doctor about whether this would be helpful or effective. Don't just go get vaccines because "if one is good two must be better!"
  
  This is the same logic people like Kennedy use.
  It's not the same logic it all? It's not a huge leap to guess that we're about to have a measles or bird flu pandemic.
  Talk to your doctor about whether this would be helpful or effective. Don't just go get vaccines because "if one is good two must be better!"
  Did they recommend getting non-evidence-based repeat vaccinations? It just sounded like they recommended getting vaccinations that are not commonly given to US unless they're traveling.
When vaccines are no longer available in the US, there will be a tourism boost from Americans going elsewhere to get them. You guys can just shift us left by helping lefties survive while conservatives self-select to be decimated by disease.
- That isn't how this works. Herd immunity is extremely important for people who actually can't safely be vaccinated, but more importantly, having large populations of anti-vaxxers will create ample opportunity for the viruses to mutate into forms that we don't necessarily have vaccines for.
  We are all truly fucked unless we deal with these scum. It's not just going to hurt the people causing the problem, and it will spread to the rest of the world.
  
  You understand what you're saying with "deal with these scum," right? They are the government. If they don't outright ban vaccines, they will pull all funding of them.
  There is only one cure for a fascist government, and we aren't desperate enough for that. Yet.
  Until then, we'll have to work around them. Many on the left are marginalized folks. I don't include myself there, but if anyone in this country knows how to skirt the rules to live their life, it's them. They will lead the way.
  Underground vaccine clubs. Phrases like, "friends of Edward Jenner." I mean it probably sounds a little more tongue in cheek than I intend. I'm not saying this will be a gay old time. I'm saying we will find ways to survive and thrive despite their best efforts, as people always have (I mean, you know, barring the occasional genocide).
  And if it becomes desperate enough to remove fascists the only way they can be, we will do that, too.
  
  It could still work. You just go on a vacation and then never come back.
- That's assuming other countries will still let you in. If there's some outbreak a bit like the 'Rona again, they might say no vaccine no entry.
  
  If they just forcibly vaccinate and quarantine, that would accomplish the mission. Worst vacation ever, though.
- Gonna stand at the US-Canadian border with my sleeve rolled up, cover myself in maple syrup, and wait for favorable winds so the Mounties’ vaccine drone can dart me
I wonder if we can come up with another set of the Bible plagues for the Trump administration because it seems like they're trying to do it.
- Measles is picking up again, why not that one?
  
  The death of your first born... along with your second, third, etc. All the born, really.
- Quick, somebody gather up a bunch of frogs and airdrop them over Mar A Lago.
The Trump administration has always placed its own interests ahead of science. Women’s health, the definition of race, and vaccines have all been targeted. The U.S. will continue to lose its scientific researchers for the Trump admin to promote its own agenda. Trickle down economics didn’t work, but scientific research strangulation will affect all U.S. citizens.
- It's not in their interests to deny science... Their support base is going to be most hurt... It's just stupid
This is the "fuck around" portion. I fear for ordinary Americans when the "find out" part comes.
Just come to Germany.

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