4mo ago

Trump Signs Order Calling for Citizenship Proof to Vote in Federal Elections

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Trump Signs Executive Order Requiring Proof of Citizenship to Vote in Elections

The net effect would be to deny a huge number of Americans the ability to cast a ballot.

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The Federal government doesn't control how people vote in states. Good luck with that bullshit.
- Red states are going to bend over backwards for daddy Trump to fuck them with this.
  
  It doesn't matter. They are the minority, especially by government.
- "Obey!"
  "No."
  "Obey or we'll cut funding for xyz!"
  "Okidoki :3"
  It's not hard to predict at this point and so far it's been mostly effective. I know it's daunting but you can't rely on checks and balances to get the US out of this mess.
- Scenario: Trump throws out any votes they deem "invalid."
  
  States decide the vote tally
There are no federal elections. There are state elections for Congress and for presidential electors.
- The plan is explicity to force states to change their rules by illegally withholding money from them and their citizens until the states change their rules
How about clearance proof for fucking group chats first, asshole.
Nice try at distracting. This should be everyone's immediate response to this. Fuck this ass clown.
And the return of Jim Crow has begun. Next they'll probably require proof of some minimum level of tax payment.
What is this proof of citizenship?
Isn’t that everywhere that only citizens vote for elections in the country?
- It depends on how you interpret it, but the most strict interpretations could actually require a passport to vote. Which is just asinine.
  Also worth noting that he doesn’t actually have the authority to do this; Elections are left up to the individual states. But if nobody actually stops him from doing it anyways…
  
  More Democrats own passports.
  
  In Europe you need an official ID to vote (almost?) everywhere. The difference is that they are easy to get and everyone has them.
The following is a list of documents accepted as proof:
• Republican Party membership card
From the outside, if this can be done, I would have thought this would impact Red States more than Blue
- I'm sure they'll follow it up with an exec order on who will be eligible for a passport in the future. They could just send a passport to every supporter free of charge and make them incredibly tedious to obtain for everybody else. Looks like they're planning to do the latter anyway.
  
  They're already doing it to trans people. If they succeed there, they'll just widen the criteria until anyone that is unlikely to vote for them is going to be ineligible.
  
  you already need another way to prove you are a citizen in order to get a passport.
  So you can just use that proof to register to vote, this is already how it works. This proposal literally solves nothing, it would only prevent people from voting who happen to forget the document day of and wouldn't stop anyone who is voting fraudulently anyway ( a birth certificate is significantly easier to forge than a passport and the 95 year old lady with coke bottle classes checking you in at the polls won't know any better anyway)
  Making it harder to get a passport won't mean much unless they also make it harder to register to vote, at which point, you don't need this proposal or to make it more difficult to get the passport.

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