Nato 'might have to get involved' in US takeover of Greenland, says Trump
Nato 'might have to get involved' in US takeover of Greenland, says Trump – video
This is wholly out of control.
Fix your country, you absolute selfish idiots.
I don't disagree, but... how?
If we put in the work, we can resist this and we can win. Join up with allies while we still can easily!
Fuckin' hard work, my friend. As Joe Hill said, "Don't mourn, organize!"
Second amendment... Your founding fathers already wrote the instructions for you. Just do it.
Mario's brother showed you the way.
Join the 50501 protests and/or attend TeslaTakedown protests.
No. You don't understand. Imagine 1930s Germany. Imagine what those German citizens must have been like. That's America, but possibly more stupider.
Let’s take a look at what it would take to stop Trump.
The United States cannot vote a president out of office. There’s literally nothing in the constitution to allow it. You cannot do a recall vote on the president. You can on other offices such as senator and representative, but you can’t on the president. So voting him out is not an option there you have to wait 3+ years and hope we’re allowed to vote at that point.
A direct assault in the White House. This isn’t a movie. First, most liberals don’t own guns. Second most of them have never shot a gun.So you would somehow have to train a sizable force arm them, equip them and do it anyway where the FBI and CIA and the DOD don’t figure out what you’re doing.
Trust me, that’s not even a possibility they will come after you because they will figure it out.
But let’s say somehow, you did organize that level. By the time you started to move on the White House, the president would be alerted. Then the president will get on national TV and say everybody who believes in democracy should form a ring around the White House with as many guns that they can bring.
Now you’re not just fighting the Secret Service but you’re also fighting Secret Service police and a bunch of MAGA.
He’d also tell the American people he can’t order military to operate on American grounds, but they can definitely volunteer also show up. Now you have what half United States military in that area showing up to also defend the White House.
Like I said, this isn’t a movie you’re not getting anywhere near the White House if you’re an armed force.
So let’s look at Lonewolf shooters. You’d have to get two people trained up to be professional level snipers. And you’d have to take out both presidentand the vice president within seconds of each other. That isn’t even a real possibility. You might get one, but you won’t get the other. And the one is just as bad as the other. Because the moment you get the one the other one just goes into hiding and you’ll never get near.
Let’s look what it actually take to do that. You’d have to catch them both in the open at the same time. Plus you’d have to catch them in an area where a sniper could get to them. Do you know what the odds against that are.? You might as well just go to Vegas and start playing the roulette wheel and expect to win Several times in a row.
So that’s not an option.
The presidency Congress, and a number of judges are basically just allowing this to happen. So the legal avenues are basically gone.
So you say to do something. What options do you have?
For the record of anybody reading this or listening to this. I am not advocating taking out the president that is not what I’m doing. I’m simply trying to explain to this individual what he says do something. The founding fathers put into place the protections that we needed, which were forthe tricameral government to keep each other in check sadly though the system has failed. There really is nothing we can do. We can stand outside the White House and protest from now until election day 3+ years from now it isn’t going to change a damn thing.
First, everybody who stands out there that long would lose their jobs their houses their income and the businesses won’t be hurt at all because they just hire somebody new on. Second even if we did stand out there in protest that long do you think the president is going to listen? No he isn’t. He’s gonna do whatever he wants anyways.
So standing out there in protesting for 3+ years and losing your home when there’s no actual benefit in terms of having the president removed. What would be the actual benefit there?. Have your voice heard? Great your voice has been heard. Did it solve anything no.
Might make feel good as you’re yelling at the White House. But it didn’t actually change anything.
Organize a union? OK great how did that union force the president to do something at all? You have a lot of tech bros telling the president stop what he’s doing and he still doing it. You think he’s gonna listen to a bunch of peons out here?
There is really nothing that we can do. A large chunk of the US voted him in the office. Now everybody pays the consequences. I’m sorry, but there really is nothing that we can’t do. Hopefully the judges put a stop to this. But I don’t have any faith in it.
This right here... This is the problem.
You and your defeatism are Trump's biggest ally. Not MAGA, people like you.
As others in this thread have pointed out, there is, in fact, a lot that can be done.
It is literally impossible to govern a populace against their will. No amount of tearing down democracy can change that fact. With or without the ballot box, Trump still governs by consent. What you have to do is find every way way possible to revoke that consent.
Remember, every act of resistance, no matter how small, inspires others to act. A few sparks are all it takes to make a forest fire.
Dumbass doesn't even understand that NATO is a DEFENSIVE pact and that Denmark is a member. Not wanting to give you their territory doesn't count as an attack.
Also if he really cared about security he would have strengthened his ties with his allies instead of pushing them away. The US is far less secure now that it was 3 months ago.
Not wanting to give you their territory doesn't count as an attack.
Having been married to a narcissist for 11 years, yes, that's literally how they think. My ex would fly off the handle if I told her "no" to sex or whatever it was that she wanted. She'd throw out all kinds of excuses about how it was my fault somehow, and even during our divorce, when we were literally separated, she forced her way into my room (we still lived in the same house for a few weeks) just to "cuddle" and would throw a fit if I didn't give in. Remember, we were getting divorced. I had to put my foot down hard on that line. And yes, she would get violent.
Orange presidents with tiny dick syndrome calling a country's refusal to give up territory an "attack" is not much different, fundamentally.
NATO isn't really defensive.
It's two main Engagements - Kosovo and Afghanistan - were pretty solidly offensive imo.
Kosovo was UN not NATO. Only NATO engagement was Afghanistan and the Taliban had claimed responsibility for an act of war against a NATO member. Now the actual war was fought entirely in Afghanistan but that doesn't mean it wasn't a defensive war. It just doesn't feel like one.
Don't take this to mean I supported the war in Afghanistan or the many horrible things US troops did while there. (nor do I support the Taliban or their practises and tactics). But NATO is by rule and charter very much a defensive alliance. So much so that if Trump attacks Greenland he will have to face the rest of NATO. Which is something I don't think he comprehends, it's obvious that to him the US is the ruler of NATO.
Kill him. I'm Canadian. Come at me.
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Can we stop these kinds of comments? It's exactly what MAGA will use to rile up violence against Canada. Who doesn't like a fun plumber video game but we're better off encouraging and helping Americans to organise.
i understand what you're saying in a broader sense, but we're like 100 people here on an internet forum and i'm just fucking around.
but fuck you (don't worry i still love you just per your comment), and here's why:
it's one thing for a guy like me who means absolutely nothing to make a joke. in this case it's not a joke, though - that totally should-be-killed-motherfucker is threatening my country's sovereignty and also my personal rights and freedoms. it's another for that totally totally should-be-killed-motherfucker to make those threats as the bleater of the free world.
NATO will do exactly nothing to help the bloated orange shit-weasel take over Greenland.
That's not true, I'm sure NATO will answer NATO's call to help kick NATO's ass.
The orange shitgibbon was seated right next to Mark Rutte as he made his threats against Greenland and Canada yesterday and the Chief of NATO sat there smiling.
That's because he's a diplomat. Rutte is no friend of Russia or Russian proxies (like the bronzed turd).
Trump added that the result was very good for the US and 'the person who did the best is a very good person as far as we’re concerned'
Me too form together words too
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
I've read the article and it's just gibberish. I can't even conclude how they came to this headline.
Reminds me of mission briefings in KSP.
The mighty US of A needs NATO to invade an island with 56,000 inhabitants?
Is Wakanda located on that island or what?
Maybe he meant against us not supporting us?
Which side does he think NATO would support?
Greenland and Canada are NATO countries. You cannot attack or forcefully annex another NATO country. If he leaves NATO, he will be up against Canada & Europe. The US is one Twizzler away from having the entire world sanction & boycott it.
And who does that benefit on the large scale?
This isn't Trump being a greedy idiot. This is systematic destruction of the US from inside out. Can't say Russia didn't warn you though:
"We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the US. We will destroy you from within."
— Nikita Khrushchev January 18th, 1956
It's pretty clear he's a putin asset.
The more I look into Greenland situation the more I am thinking there's already a psychological campaign in play to get them to be part of the US. They're legitimately trying to get away for the Danish government and there's a strong US presence there already with military bases. I suspect the target is to get them to hand over the keys not only willingly but ask for it.
Then we drill drill drill dig dig dig
They are working on interfering in Canada too and have funded far-right groups, including the freedom convoy.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-annexation-destabilizing-canada-1.7479890
Given that he regards the Department of Justice as his personal litigators, it makes sense that he’d regard NATO as his enforcers.
He wants Greenland the same way as Putin wanted extra countries. How many countries did Russia invade between 2000 and 2020?
National security is just a pretext. Greenland already contributes to your national security you king. They’re a part of NATO. You already have force projection up there if required.
His entire campaign and following is about division and hate. And the lies to cause said division.
An attack on one is an attack on all. I always wondered what would happen if one NATO country attacked another.
Literally what's wrong with you? How dense can one carrot be?
A literal carrot would be an improvement over the current orange tyrant.
Putin stooge wants an easy war somewhere.
He probably wants that the NATO acquires Greenland, Canada, etc. for the US.
He is one greasy piece of shit.
Trump thinks that NATO is his personal army now?
Eh, must be Tuesday
Trump being an idiot? Must be a day that starts with a T.
There's Tuesday and Thursday. Thriday, Thaturday and Thunday. And of course Tonday and Tednesday.
You forgot Today and Tomorrow.
Amazing. It is like they want people to hate America as much as possible before America starts confronting China.
As a Canadian, I don't know which country i hate more at this point.
I know I'm supposed to understand that China is horrible, and the young US dick-tatorship is still nothing compared to Chinese high-tech totalitarian dystopia... but somehow, seeing USA, a supposed former friend and ally, turn into a ruthless, unprincipled traitor, aligning itself with Russia... With Russia, of all states! And spitting in the face of the hero of our times...
We know Russians here in Poland. We know how their army works, we know their mentality. When Ukraine reported war crimes, we believed them. Seeing US backstab Ukraine like that... It's just too much. I think the American brand is dead for us.
I'd never thought I'd fight with side by side with Danes at some point...
How about a fellow anti-American?
Ayy, I can do that
!for now!<
Trumps fundamental and broad stupidity amazes every day.
Oh yes it will get involved, the US will be kicked out but yes, NATO will be involved
Denmark's PM should slap slap challenge this idiot to a duel at dawn. Her normal-sized hands would be to grip the pistol better and actually raise it to aim.
"Police may have to be involved in my invasion of my victim's home" says criminal
"We want you to violate the sovereignty of a fellow NATO country. Are you in?"
No matter how dumb you think he is I'm sure his cult is lapping it up.
Just fucking try it you orange twat!
Should over might
25th Amendment.
He just had Rutte visit and thinks he could arrange that for him. Rutte skirted the question by affirming that the defense of the polar region was important.
I hope NATO does get involved. Not the same way Trump hopes though...
I hope you're prepared to pay an extra 25% on that export.
Yes!
Not getting banned on Lemmy moment
Yeah, what’s he smoking thinking that they would help invade a sovereign nation?!