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‘We will soon be next’: German leaders sound alarm on Trump’s Ukraine plan

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‘We will soon be next’: German leaders sound alarm on Trump’s Ukraine plan – POLITICO

German political leaders have reacted with alarm to U.S. President Donald Trump’s bombshell announcement that his administration will conduct peace negotiations with Russian President Vladimir Putin over the head of European leaders.

“To be clear, peace must last over the long term. It must secure Ukraine’s sovereignty,” said German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Thursday. “That is why we will never support a dictated peace. Nor will we accept any solution that leads to a decoupling of European and American security. Only one person would benefit from that. President Putin.”

Scholz, whose Social Democratic Party (SPD) is in third place according to polls ahead of a Feb. 23 national election, called for more spending on Germany’s defense and military aid for Ukraine, and urged conservatives to relax the country’s strict spending rules — a theme he has touched on repeatedly during the election campaign — in order to do so.

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This time Germany may need to save the world from America. Please don’t fall like we did.
- We'll have an election in a few days here in Germany. And we're already stumbling. The polls don't look wo good.
  
  So sad to hear.
  
  Hopefully you have much more robust fraud and manipulation systems of review than the us. Musk very likely compromised the systems and all investigations are stopped in their tracks
  
  History is doomed to repeat itself.
- Clueless comment of the day. Has no idea whats happening in the world.
Yeah idk how this is being taken so tamely by fucking everyone. It’s insane.
- Everyone is calm because any analyst worth the name should have seen this coming since November, and its far too late to stop at this point.
  I dont know why Europe didnt start rearming eight years ago, but now they are going to suffer for that oversight.
  
  Because eight years ago nobody really cared about russia.
- Because nobody believes it can actually happen. 70 years of continuous peace makes people complacent. Which is good in itself, but when shit hits the fan we just sit back and expect it to blow over.
- Because we can't do anything about it.
  Europe needs to put boots on the ground in Ukraine. You need to stop this now.
  Partly to stop the invasion of Europe. Partly to gear up Europe for war in the hopes of preventing a larger conflict later.
  
  That would risk direct conflict between nuclear powers. I'm not sure that's a gamble we should take.
  I'm not sure we shouldn't take it either. I don't know, really. But it's scary.
  
  Europe won't though, since they expect US/UK/AUS to do all the military heavy lifting and always have.
I don't get. What's Trumps bargaining chip. If Ukraine and Europe doesn't approve their peace plan, what is his leverage? Stop supporting Ukraine? He and his goons have already said that it will eventually happen.
- He is Putin's stooge. Trump LOVES dictators and billionaires, because he wants to be, or be seen as, both of those things. You might ask why the Israelis preferred Trump over Biden/Kamala even though the latter were as much supportive of Israel as Trump is. The reason is that Trump's rhetoric is stronger and more direct, and on top of that, he is a VERY easily manipulatible bitch despite his reputation and personal belief that he is uncontrollable. The other elites know this, and this is why he is popular with them even if he is an absolute disaster for most people.
  
  So he just wants to go tickle Putins balls. Unless he's there trying to sell Europe and NATO.
Yeah man. That's always been Trump's deal. Those of us warning against him are left with nothing to say but "we told you so" and to ask "hey you got any of those civil liberties? We'd like some please"
Any chance yall can turn back on your reactors so you can actually be energy independent again?
We've got tons of uranium over in Canada and you're welcome to it.
- Turning the existing reactors back on is not an option anymore, they are already being dismantled. Building new ones would not be worth it when investing in renewables is cheaper
- Germany does not need reactors to be independent. Where did you get this weird information from.
  
  From Swedes that are paying noticeably higher energy prices because the German grid went from a net exporter to a mixed grid that can have a surplus when winds are high but usually needs to burn gas that's imported indirectly from Russia when it's low driving up energy prices in nearby regions.
  Germans love to talk about how they never needed Nuclear power and there seems to be an irrational hatred of an incredibly clean form of power but it's clearly a problem:
  https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy/news/swedish-minister-open-to-new-measures-to-tackle-energy-crisis-blames-german-nuclear-phase-out/
- We don't need to. But nice try. 😘
Does Trump want the Sudetenland?
And that's why you didn't want to provide tanks, opposed strikes into russia and didn't provide Taurus missiles.
- Can't wait to see whether we'll get the corrupt clown again as the next chancellor or the other corrupt clown who hates foreigners.
  Or maybe even the lesbian clown who hates foreigners and thinks women belong in the kitchen.
  Such visionaries. So inspiring. So smart.
  And yes, that is why. The corrupt clown thinks not poking the bear will appease him.
  
  The lesbian clown would also rather deliver tanks to russia than to ukraine.

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