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Trump pushes death penalty for undocumented people in capital cases.

Trump pushes death penalty for undocumented people in capital cases

President Donald Trump is calling for federal prosecutors to push for the death penalty in capital cases involving undocumented people. The move was one of dozens of executive orders the president signed on day one of his second term.

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Why should undocumented people die for a crime while documented people shouldn't? It's the same crime. What possible argument is there for this except "It's cheaper just to kill them, and we don't give a fuck"? Effectively it's execution for not having your papers in order.
Also, won't this be used as the start of an excuse to kill whichever undocumented person they round up? And then to kill them in bulk, and then to kill the other people they decide to round up? There's no reason whatsoever to trust this administration. They don't believe in justice or laws.
The USA needs to find a way to get rid of these Nazis fast, or it'll be too late to mount any effective resistance.
- It's not cheaper to execute people, either. Even if convicted, they still get their appeals, which costs court and lawyer time and money, plus the imprisonment. Even if they exhaust their appeals, they sit on death row until the state actually manages to execute them, which is getting more difficult due to lack of executioners and method of execution materials (e.g. the lethal injection items).
  
  It's not cheaper to execute people with our current legal framework. After we get 30,000 people in Guantanamo bay and illegal immigration has become a crime punishable by death, things could change.
  
  Ha, due process? Unlikely
  
  it's actually quite a bit more expensive to execute someone than to house them for life.
  Much to the surprise of many who, logically, would assume that shortening someone's life should be cheaper than paying for it until natural expiration, it turns out that it is actually cheaper to imprison someone for life than to execute them. In fact, it is almost 10 times cheaper! One might ask, “how can that be?”
  source: https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/which-is-cheaper-execution-or-life-in-prison-without-parole-31614
- Why should undocumented people die for a crime while documented people shouldn't?
  There was some sort of Republican conference a couple weeks ago where he talked about how people where raping grandmas and pushing other people in front of subways. He explicitly stated, that he wanted the death penalty for not only immigrants, but also American citizens doing said crimes. But there were some "legal hurdles" to solve first.
  In other words: He'll try and build extermination camps.
- It's not about justice. It's about finding an excuse to murder brown people.
I can think of one felon who could stand to undergo a little death penalty
- In the past, treason used to be punished by death. Nowadays it's rewarded with a seat in the oval office.
- Just a little death penalty. As a treat, for the American people.
  
  We've had first death penalty yes, but what about second?
Sure, because Biden reduced all but three federal death penalty cases. Trump needs more people to victimize.
The only people who should suffer from the death penalty are the ones advocating for it.
And no, that wasn't a paradoxical statement.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg#%3A%7E%3Atext=Julius+Rosenberg+%28May+12%2C+1918%2Cto+be+executed+during+peacetime.
First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me
- Markdown requires either two spaces at the end of a line (line break) or an empty line (paragraph break, adds empty space) to separate lines.
  First they came for the Communists
  And I did not speak out
  Because I was not a Communist
  Then they came for the Socialists
  And I did not speak out
  Because I was not a Socialist
  Then they came for the trade unionists
  And I did not speak out
  Because I was not a trade unionist
  Then they came for the Jews
  And I did not speak out
  Because I was not a Jew
  Then they came for me
  And there was no one left
  To speak out for me
  
  Code whispers softly Bugs scatter in the flashlights beam Green checkmarks bloom
  It didn't work for me.
Let's go on record defending murderers and rapists instead of focusing on citizen children being deported.
- If you're talking about this comment thread, people are defending equality before the law and due process, not defending rapists and murderers.
I suggest we invite trump out for a field day with an interactive exhibition on death penalty. And to honour the great Queen Trump, we'll give her the honours of trying it out first!

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