Edward Snowden slams Nvidia's RTX 50-series 'F-tier value,' whistleblows on lackluster VRAM capacity
Edward Snowden slams Nvidia's RTX 50-series 'F-tier value,' whistleblows on lackluster VRAM capacity
Every one who bought the 7900xtx laughing their arse off running 20GiB models with MUCH better performance than a 4080/4080Super lol
I bought my 7900XTX for $800, and have kept absolutely quiet about it.
Anyone who has asked me: "AMD sucks, CUDA better, buy NVDA stock".
The invisible hand of the market is made of invisible delicious meat
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I’m an idiot that waited. Saw a sapphire nitro 7900xtx on sale for €900 but didn’t get it holding out for the 5800. Now those are €1400 if you can find one and the 7900xtx is out of stock.
Have a 3080ti though so I’m not too bad off, just annoyed.
Don't feel bad, neither AMD or NVIDIA (or Intel for that matter) have produced anything worthy of note in the GPU space since the 1080Ti or 6800XT. Keep your 3080ti, it'll serve you well for now. Hopefully Morethreads or Intel make something interesting and disrupt the market although it's unlikely. NV and AMD have the GPU spaced fairly locked with IP (and cash reserves) that would drown any competitor in legalese for a millennium. The 7900xtx is a helluva card because it competes with overpriced NVIDIA hw, in any sane world it would be a 7800 class card and priced accordingly. (like the 5080 is actually a 5070)
"Whistleblows". What a moronic take, in this regard taking the word of Edward Snowden is like taking the word of a random stranger in the street. At least we know on what Edward Snowden is likely spending his days on in Russia: Gaming. Wouldn't blame him, it's not like he can freely travel.
That headline is so stupid that I refuse to read the article
Ha, my sentiment exactly.
He's not wrong
I'll wait for the Julian Assange review.
I legit tried to understand how a lackluster VRAM capacity could spy on us.
Just wanna say, cool username
You depend on the cloud instead~
The video card monopoly (but also other manufacturers) have been limiting functionality for a long time. It started with them restricting vGPU to enterprise garbage products, which allows Linux users to virtualize their GPU for things like playing games with near-native speeds using Windows on Linux. This is one of the big reasons Windows still has such a large marketshare as the main desktop OS.
Now they want to restrict people running AI locally so that they get stuck with crap like Copilot-enabled PCs or whatever dumb names they want to come up. These actions are intentional. It is anti-consumer & anti-trust, but don't expect our government to care or do anything about it.
So to put the likelihood of this in perspective, let me just repeat it to see if I understand the claim.
You're saying that one of the big reasons of Windows' market share is how artificially inefficient it is to install Linux, spin up a Virtual Machine, run Windows inside THAT and then run a game?
That's the mainstream use case that is propping up Windows adoption in this scenario?
But that’s assuming there is actual high demand for running big models locally, so far I’ve only seen hobbyists do it.
I agree with you in theory that they just want more money but idk if they actually think locally run AI is that big of a threat (I hope it is).
But what does Ja Rule think?
Who cares what Ja Rule thinks? I'm holding out for Busta Rhymes.
What the fuck is going on with the world
People are showing us who they really are when push comes to shove.
Snowden showing us he's a card reviewer
Edward Snowdon reads a spec sheet
Was this written by AI? The headline word salad contains all the buzzwords.
Edward Snowden PILEDRIVES the Nvidia RTX 50 series into a crowded bitcoin farm
"Trash fuckin cuck card kys"
Don't that distract you from that fact that in 2025 Edward Snowden threw Nvidia's RTX 50 series off Hell In A Cell and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table.
Whistleblows on poor performance is actually insane lol
That might've made sense if we was working as a contractor for Nvidia and revealed that info prior to launch. Maybe. Well, actually no, but it's a lot closer than whatever this is.
What the fuck is wrong with this timeline.
Do the amish accept atheists?
The real question is whether they accept hypersexual autists.
EDIT: ... unable to exist without Tao Te Ching, thyme tea and a few good soundtracks.
So now we care what Edward Snowden says about vram? We need him to tell us that it should be 24 gigs?
How would Snowden get a hold of one of these in Russia? Maybe through an intermediary in Kazakhstan?
Then again it's hard finding one here even in the US since they all went out of stock within 5 minutes of being listed.
Snowden added, "As someone who wants to sweep away corruption, there's a lot to like in the new ShamWow. And for those really tough, dirty stains, there's OXYCLEAN!!! With ShamWow and Oxyclean, you don't need to be Rushin'!"
Yeah that does seem a bit weird, my four year old RX 6800 has 16 GB VRAM already
Yes but that's from a company that builds decent cards at an acceptable price, and not from the HypeLords of the Lesser Return on Investment Unless You're a Farm.
(Getting ready for the downvotes!...)
I can’t see the context because it’s freaking X, but I bet that’s in reference to local ML hosting.
There’s a big movement to get away from corporate AI, and I don’t need to explain the importance of that to the Lemmy crowd. But Nvidia is indeed artificially crippling consumer VRAM to stop them from being used for that too much, and protect their enterprise GPU market.
The most bizzare thing is that AMD is inexplicably complicit even though they have like zero market share in that space. 48GB 7900s (and so on) would have obliterated Nvidia and sold like hotcakes, much less actually using their modular memory controller architecture… But no? They restricted their OEMs from doing that because they… Don’t want money, I guess.
AMD is much of a scum as Nvidia is or Intel was, that’s why DeepSeek is something that came from China and you would need a new player completely outside of the current chain.
I don’t see how that’s relevant, Deepseek was trained on, and is served on, Nvidia hardware.
And while I don’t disagree about AMD gouging, if AMD was to act like “scum,” they would screw over Nvidia’s pricing strategy.
But… they don’t. And lose for it.
It’s some combination of ignorance, corporate stupidity and straight up collusion, but it’s also the opposite of greed.
Wait, did the guy refuse to call AMD's 9070 by its official name out of spite there at the end? Is this a weird tech The Onion thing?
AMD, as usual, misses an opportunity here. The 5xxx series is exactly Fermi again (they even removed hotspot data so reviewers would miss the throttling). AMD could leverage the nostalgia of one of ATI's best gens and call the cards 9700 and 9700pro. Damn, those were the days. (since 4750 conflicts with current scheme)
Probably a mistake, considering the current generation follows the RX 7_00 naming pattern.
What type of news editor for a hardware review outlet gets that wrong? That's as weird as the Snowden thing. If you have that job you've surely been joking about AMD's shameful "we just want to use the same name as Nvidia" thing for ages by now. This thing is so surreal.
What is even this ?
You're about 30 years too late, but I'm glad you're finally here
Kamoulox
Shut the fuck up, Snowden.You had everyone behind you until you defected to Russia. There's no free lunch and you had a lot of info Putin would like to have. Oddly enough things really started getting bad shortly therafter.
He was being chased by the US government, and Assange proved that being in an US allied country will still get your arrested/tortured. What other options did Snowden had other than escaping to Russia?
IMO don't hate the player, hate the game.
Yeah, I thought the same thing too at the time and that's why I wrote it off. But the problem is that knowing how Putin is and what he does, what makes you think that he would let Snowden stay there in Russia without demanding any of that information as payment?
And if Snowden was so hard up for places to go that he had to go to Russia to escape extradition to the US what position would he be in to even say no if Russia demanded it?
Think about it. If someone came to the US to escape persecution in Russia for whistleblowing, you can damn well believe the US gov't would demand info. They brought all those Nazi rocket scientists over to work rather than sending them to prison because of the knowledge they posssesed. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
Think of it from Snowdens perspective. You get to choose: either be tortured for the rest of your life, or chill in Russia and pretend Putin is a nice guy. I know what I’d pick.
He is not simply pretending Putin is a nice guy, he is clearly collaborating with russian security services. Just look at his comments on internal US politics. And he also was spreading misinformation that russia wasn't going to invade Ukraine in Feb 2022.
He might be a hero for many, but if you're Ukrainian (like I am), he is clearly a piece of shit.
You'd fit squarely as the village idiot in a 1984 sub plot.
Is that the reply you meant to write? Why don't you try again, but think first.
Snowden goes to Russia and there's no way Putin is letting him stay there without demanding that information.
If the shoe is on the other foot, the US would do the exact same. They brought Nazi rocket scientists over after WW2 and had them continue their work rether than putting them in jail to rot.
things really started getting bad shortly therafter
Things started getting bad waaaaay earlier than that.
Edward Snowden doing GPU reviews? This timeline is becoming weirder every day.
Legitimately thought this was a hard-drive.net post
"Whistleblows" as if he's some kind of NVIDIA insider.
Intel Insider now that would've made for great whistleblowing headlines.
I bet he just wants a card to self host models and not give companies his data, but the amount of vram is indeed ridiculous.
Exactly, I'm in the same situation now and the 8GB in those cheaper cards don't even let you run a 13B model. I'm trying to research if I can run a 13B one on a 3060 with 12 GB.
Swear next he's gonna review hentai games
Oh wait... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAf1Syz17JE
"Some hentai games are good" -Edward Snowden
I'll keep believing this is a theonion post
Does he work for Nvidia? Seems out of character for him.