Ahead of Chair Vote, Progressives Say DNC 'Failing Disastrously' to Learn From Loss to Trump
Ahead of Chair Vote, Progressives Say DNC 'Failing Disastrously' to Learn From Loss to Trump | Common Dreams
In a last-minute move, they shut the event off from the public and even deliberately shared the wrong address for where grassroots supporters are allowed to gather."
Lol, we're fucked
Holy shit...
Has anyone tried turning the party off and then on again?
The Democrats are over. If we ever even get the chance to vote again, a new progressive, actually left party must rise in its place
Interesting you think they need to be more left?
Progressives won in states where Harris lost, so objectively, yes. We don't need Republicans and Diet Republicans. We need two noticeably different parties.
Yes, they've been moving right and trying to stay in the center for 30 years.
Well, they at least need to be left of nazis. Can we agree on that? We just want the democrats to work on that for now. You know, baby steps.
What do you think "left" means?
They need to not be so locked in to the branding of existing Dems.
If there ever was a time to criticize the democrats, it is 3 months AFTER an election.
If there ever was a time to not to criticize the democrats, it is 3 months BEFORE an election.
If there was ever a time for the DNC to listen to voters, it was at any point in time.
Do not hold back on them, hold them accountable and demand better. “We will apply pressure but back off when it’s actually meaningful” is a terrible strategy.
They cannot hope to gain the support of voters unless they make it clear they are interested in their voters.
Whether they actually are good for us and are actually fighting for us or not, constant smear campaign fueled by wealthy bad actors and foreign powers is going to have impacts on the vote.
Sometimes we need to fight back against bias by evening out that scale, declaring the value in voting blue no matter who.
Even if we think Democrats might shit the bed, we need to make it clear we have to prevent Republicans from pumping gallons of shit into the bedroom.
This group of progressives, "Our Revolution" was a continuation of the Bernie Sanders election campaign, and Bernie Sanders spent today yelling at the top of his lungs as the US confirmed a health secretary who actively promoted the unnecessary death of infants and argued with him on pharmaceutical company profits.
Voter Outreach and party platform is OUR JOB. Not just the DNC.
And by don't criticize them before the election, he means the 2077 election. Give them time to figure things out, guys.
there has to be a real fear of losing something, otherwise there's no pressure to change. they will never change voluntarily. and after they win/lose an election there is zero pressure to do anything
the best time to criticize is in the immediate lead up to an election
That's fair, I normally try to shut down the shitting on all the time, but that's a very fair point to be making and I accept your views as veritable and righteous.
You think if we criticize democrats for 3.5 years straight it wont affect the outcome of an election as long as we stop for a few months?
Acknowledge mistakes and learning from them is the biggest advantage when running against the Republicans who think Trump can never make mistakes
I'm actually not really certain that it makes any difference whether we criticize them or not, with or without a break.
They just keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different outcomes.
You can't help but feel the new Chair is going to either make or break the party for the foreseeable future.
They need to pull a long shot, honestly, given that Bernie Sanders has said he isn't going to seek re-election, I'd say nominate him. Even if he declines it sets the right tone. People need someone who can walk the walk, and spit that talk like hot fire. You have an easy and galvanizing message to get out. America works for all Americans, because we all pay out fair share... Except for when a small group of billionaires think they have the right to buy and sell our country and our rights. This class of ultra wealthy is like a cancer that has been allowed to survive and fester for too long. It is now growing at a faster rate than healthy society can maintain and it threatens to destroy it. All Trump appointed and nominated officials will be retired from their positions for security reasons, including judges. Citizens United will be reversed. Tax rates on the top 1% will be a minimum of 50%, regardless of the type of income. Universal healthcare coverage, and creating a socioeconomic state that supports workers to the point where the educated and skilled should be able to retire comfortably at 50. This will allow for new opportunities for younger workers of all types, and keep the American dream alive.
That would be week 1
Several hundred people will see change in the spreadsheet that
Are they really failing to realize their losing strategy at this point? I think they just don't care. They got theirs and fuck everyone else.
DNC sucks. They only care about lining their pockets. They need to go down. They will go down.
If you support an establishment democrat you are part of the problem
I am absolutely shocked to hear this.
True, but the way I see it elections are largely a game of name recognition.
Love or hate Trump, people know his name.
Harris only had 3 months to campaign and still almost beat Trump.
Sure, major cities can handle a quick turnaround, but the rest of the country needs a full year of campaigning to accept a candidate.
Trump's win isn't the mandate he thinks it is and Harris' loss isn't as damning as people make it out to be either.
She didn't "almost win" & it was mostly Tim Waltz (the guy is a gem)
So that means the progressives will break off and form a real leftist party right?
Right?
Oh boy, if only
Yes they will be moving to the right. Wait. Nooooo
And then we'll be called splitting the vote and needing to vote for a 2016 Republican running as a Democrat in 2028. Vote blue no matter who! Vote blue, turn off your brain even if they openly hate your kind!
ITT people who have no idea how the Democratic party is structured, nor how the DNC chair is elected, nor been involved in party politics, complaining about the DNC anyway.
Democrats would rather lose than let Progressives lead the way.
They would rather gather the money needed to be able to effectively campaign than pursue policies designed to reign in campaigns costing so much. Wouldn't it be nice if we legally defined our election season to the formerly traditional end of February to November of the year of your offices' election?