6mo ago

UK would need forest ‘twice size of London’ to offset new airport expansion.

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6mo ago

Analysis: UK would need forest ‘twice size of London’ to offset new airport expansion

www.carbonbrief.org /analysis-uk-would-need-forest-twice-size-of-london-to-offset-new-airport-expansion/

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Some day I'd like to hear about a forest twice the size of London getting planted without there being a gigantic airport built.
- https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/press-centre/2024/09/biggest-ever-tree-planting-year-for-northern-forest/
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartwood_Forest
  Some key figures from the 2024 Forestry research summary:
  https://www.forestresearch.gov.uk/publications/forestry-facts-figures-2024/
  There are now 3.28 million hectares of woodland in the UK (as of March 2024)
  Woodland area in the UK now represents 13.5% of total land area
  20,660 hectares of new woodland were created in the UK in 2023/24 (compared to 12,960 in 22/23)
  There was a 59% increase in new planting and 28% increase in restocking in the UK in 2023/24
  Hopefully that'll make you feel slightly happier :)
  
  🥰
- Ditto
- Yeah but, how can you squeeze profit from that?
  
  Charge people for breathing oxygen, like that one Dr who episode.
Increasing airport size as a way to stimulate economic growth seems like dated thinking to me. Flights are increasingly not used for business travel as communications technology has advanced. All you're really doing is trying to maintain hub status for London which doesn't drive economic activity outside of the airport industry.
Heathrow needs a third runway as much as it needs a rollercoaster. A huge construction project, with all the emissions that brings, that paves over houses, green spaces and the M25 (on a bridge).
Finally, I guess we can see why Labour whipped against the environment bill last week.
- if only there was some painfully obvious and immortal way to stimulate economic growth, like idk.. building housing and factories with public transport connecting the two..
  oh right shit i forgot, that would annoy the real estate investors in london, can't do that.
The level of production of CO2 is so vast that planting trees is not going to do anything meaningful. We need to sharply and rapidly stop producing CO2 immediately and work on viable scalable CO2 removal and storage methods with urgency.
- We need to sharply and rapidly stop producing CO2 immediately
  Can I recommend a new law requiring billionaires the travel only by trebuchet. May solve more issues then just CO2
  
  There's an ingenious machine the french used to stop individuals producing CO2. I don't recall her name though.
The depth of climate crisis denial is depressing. We should be cutting drastically down on flying. We should be cutting drastically down on miles driven in cars. Nope, none of that.
The rationale of electric planes is unhinged. "We're going to plan to expend energy as if future technology has already been implemented".
- Straight out of the David Cameron "carbon capture" playbook
- An electric plane will expend similar levels of energy to a jet plane.
  
  That's beside my point, considering that all commercial electric aircraft being developed are basically all at or near the "announced plans to develop" stage and they're already talking about expanding airports using these erstwhile emissions savings as a rationale. It would be more honest to say they don't actually give a damn about the climate.
Haven't we debunked the offsetting as useful? There was a lot of fraud going on in that space as well.

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