TikTok creators mourn app where 'overnight' success is possible

They miss the early phase of enshittification. The reason a normal person could get 50 million views in 24 hours is because the tiktok office had a way to juice the algorithm for specific videos and show it to everybody. And they were just doing this for free. Just like Facebook used to show content to people organically. Eventually tiktok starts selling ads and maximizing value, and then you have to pay for the success they used to give for free.

Wait if tiktok is a private company, maybe it wouldn't do that exactly the same way as Facebook and Google

Jesus Christ I'm tired of hearing about this TikTok bullshit every goddamn day

I think those „success stories“ were always at least a little fabricated by the algorithm that somewhat randomly pushed a selected few lucky users immensely just to show the rest how you can become a media sensation overnight. It gives the platform free publicity as opposed to distributing visibility more evenly. Besides the ad revenue on TikTok is almost non existent even compared to Youtube. It was never a platform that you could realistically become successful with even if you got views.

It literally has more registered users than there were registered for the US presidential election
Besides the ad revenue on TikTok is almost non existent even compared to Youtube. It was never a platform that you could realistically become successful with even if you got views.
If TikTok was widely known for being bad for making money then maybe it pulled some people who didn’t care about money like on old YouTube.

success, content

Making shitty videos is a stupid hobby, not a job.

You can say the same about the whole entertainment industry then. You just prefer other things than short form, visual content.
- I cannot say that a great movie is equivalent to a meme in an animated GIF.
what's with this curmudgeon type shit? their livelihood is at risk. just because you're not part of the ecosystem doesn't mean you need to dismiss a way to make money thats worked for quite a few people.
- Their livelihoods are only at risk because they ignored the cards for the previous five years. If you’re living in the US, and haven’t spread your content out to other platforms by now, you are in that situation because of your own inaction. I refuse to sympathize with people who aren’t capable of simple logic.
- their livelihood is at risk
  They should make a better tiktok: 5 seconds videos, it will be more insightful, and a gift to humanity... Or maybe 1 seconds videos because they will concentrate their talents. But god forbid they find a real job, that would be exhausting.
If it pays the bills for those people, what difference does it make? Other than "me no likey", that is?

I imagine that people have fucked around to find out how to game the system and know more or less exactly how the thing actually works. People do it everywhere else. Shit, dudes on YouTube like The Spiffing Brit make entire videos about how the system works and how you can exploit it.
- Perfectly balanced game...
The numbers presented on TikTok are absolutely 100% made up nonsense.

I've come from an era of the internet where - you're not supposed to be internet famous. That's like a frowned upon thing where people think you lead a loser life because you got infamous on the internet. Now people are fretting about how many views they get.

Morons who should have been doing that in the first place. You never want all your content and success to hinge on the whim's on one corporation.

Oh no
anyways

Didn't Vine do this once, then TikTok came along and did it, more or less? Won't there just be another one sometime before we know it?

~~Have people somehow forgotten that VPNs exist? Like millions are moving to rednote but the easier way is to literally just, at minimum, get a shitty free VPN, and still have access to tiktok.~~

~~Personally tho, I'd probably opt for a cloud server VPN if I really needed one.~~

Edit: this was a stupid take, I forgot the app would be removed from devices and that it will cause inconvenience.

You vastly overestimate the average person's technical ability.
- Honestly, true. I must be underestimating how tired I am and overestimating how much brain power I got left because, I must say, I barely had a single thought when typing that.
Any roadblock in using a social media will turn off 90% of the users.
Which means the creators will be gone, too.
Sure, you could connect to it via VPN, but most of the content you like won't be there anymore.
- I fully agree with that, and I was wrong in assuming that it'd be very simple. In my country, we only got online piracy firewalled, so I don't have experience with apps or other kinds of websites getting banned, and somehow I assumed that most of the demographics of a service would try and use it a different way just like how we use VPNs to hop on the pirate bays, but that isn't the case.
VPN's are grand, if you're using a PC, if you're using a smartphone the app is about to be dissapeared, also if your bag is monetization, good luck getting a bank to accept digital deposits from TikTok
- Oh right, I somehow didn't think they'd remove the app at first, I thought they'd just firewall it or smthn. The monitisation part also makes a lot of sense too. Honestly I don't have even the smallest experience with witnessing anything online get banned in my country apart from piracy.