6mo ago

New US Rule Aims to Block China’s Access to AI Chips and Models by Restricting the World

www.wired.com

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/52551251

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6mo ago

New US Rule Aims to Block China’s Access to AI Chips and Models by Restricting the World

www.wired.com /story/new-us-rule-aims-to-block-chinas-access-to-ai-chips-and-models-by-restricting-the-world/

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6mo ago

New US Rule Aims to Block China’s Access to AI Chips and Models by Restricting the World

www.wired.com /story/new-us-rule-aims-to-block-chinas-access-to-ai-chips-and-models-by-restricting-the-world/

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Yeah, that worked beautifully the last time they did it. At the time it was encryption tech and the result was millions of apps with weak cyphers by default.
- At the time it was encryption tech and the result was millions of apps with weak cyphers by default.
  That was literally the objective and they won lol
  Normies got nothing to hide
  
  I'd just like to get back the time I spent installing the strong cypher pack for Java 7.
Ugh the world is headed for dark times, cyber curtains dropping, increasing protectionism - we are headed for more wars.
Especially with how the americans conduct themselves on the world stage.
- Maybe they get the wars for a change.
  
  Yeah the problem with them is they bring everyone down to their level when things go shit. Selfish by nature.
- What is this?
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Wars
  
  Munition, it says so on the ~~shirt~~ munition
Aren’t China the ones making the chips in their foundries? What’s to stop them from not exporting the chips to US hardware manufacturers in retaliation? Are there any AI chips being made in the US?
- Most high tech chips are made in Taiwan, or some other asian countries. China cannot make them because they'd need lithography machines that are under US sanctions.
no access to ai chips seems like a china w
For the actual policy details not paywalled:
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/nvidia-and-sia-fire-back-at-u-s-govs-new-export-restrictions-on-ai-gpus-to-china
Nvidia:
"It makes no sense for the Biden White House to control everyday data center computers and technology already in gaming PCs worldwide, disguised as an anti-China move," Finkle wrote. "The extreme 'country cap' policy will affect mainstream computers in countries around the world, doing nothing to promote national security but pushing the world to alternative technologies."
the 50000 GPUs over 3 years per tier 2 country would seem to include consumer gamers from that country, perhaps buying older generation rtx30? gpus. 0 GPUs to China/others. Seems to make tier 2 worse than current China policies, while also "forcing Nvidia" to also only sell $2000 Blackwells in tier 2 countries.
Maybe a backdoor that is opened is to build all datacenters in Tier 1 countries, and then use the 25% allowance to expand to tier 2.
China's "delete America" program is justified over this, and its not that far behind in single GPU performance, and ahead of rtx30. Just drivers and interconnection that need to catch up. Which doesn't seem like an impossible task, especially in controlled hardware environments. National resources increasing/doubling for that goal is a likely response.
The whole national security justification and warmongering bent is troublesome. AI must serve war and US supremacy, and must be used against American people to ensure the supremacy.

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