2y ago

Mexico supreme court decriminalizes abortion across country

www.theguardian.com

Mexico’s supreme court has decriminalized abortion across the country, two years after ruling that abortion was not a crime in one northern state.

That earlier ruling had set off a grinding process of decriminalizing abortion state by state. Last week, the central state of Aguascalientes became the 12th state to decriminalize the procedure. Judges in states that still criminalize abortion will have to take account of the top court’s ruling.

The supreme court wrote on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, that it had decided that “the legal system that criminalized abortion in the Federal Penal Code is unconstitutional, [because] it violates the human rights of women and people with the ability to gestate.”

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Pretty crazy. Mexico has traditionally been VERY catholic. The fact that it has become more progressive than the US on women's rights really speaks volumes about how terrible the US has become.
I suspect a LOT of abortions happening down in the west texas town of el paso.
- Pretty crazy. Mexico has traditionally been VERY catholic. The fact that it has become more progressive than the US on women’s rights really speaks volumes about how terrible the US has become.
  In some ways it might be about sending a clear signal that they arent interested in following the political or cultural leadership of the US.
  
  Fuck. You mean trump actually made [North] America great again?
- They also legalized same sex marriage a while ago. Yes they are religious but they are not "bible belt fundamentalists".. there is also universal healthcare. Did you know several American doctors go study there and just come back to pass the exams? Mexico had it's problems but it's not as bad as they make it seem here. Most immigrants that come here are at the bottom of the barrel of the economical scale.
- It seems even the pope is more progressive than American right now.
  
  Legitimately wild for the Pope to point blank call the US regressive.
  Not out of hypocrisy (though, yeah - solidarity with survivors and the colonised) - but because he was actually really justified in what he said to reach that.
  Wild. Absolutely wild. The US is so comically bad faith a society even the pope can eloquate why it's awful.
  
  The pope doesn’t do shit agains his organisations centuries long paedophilia problem.
  Not even the US is that bad.
- Well, most Americans are progressive on the issues, including abortion, but due to absurd things like the Electoral College, and the way our power is distributed through states and the way in which rural areas have much more influence than they should, conservatives are given way too much power in relation to their numbers.
  
  But without that, the majority would be tyrants!
  
  But... But democracy. And the land of the free! Say it ain't so...
  
  Oh please, if we didn't have the electoral college the south wouldn't be able to serve as the moral compass of the country and couldn't guide us away from such evils as slavery and racism.
- Mexico’s constitution always allowed for abortions in cases of rape or danger to the mother or fetus.
- Catholics might be against abortion, but they are no where near as vocal as some other Christian sects in the US.
  
  Also the Catholic church believed abortions were fine until ~5 months for a long time.
- did you fall in love with a Mexican girl?
...people with the ability to gestate.
Got that 1-2 punch of abortion progress and inclusive language.
- People that can't gestate rarely need abortions.
  ...rarely.
  
  Well there are some days I'd like to abort my neighbor.
  
  So far that record is 1/0 for can’t gestate/ got abortion
  
  Something to do with things that mostly come out at night
  ... mostly.
- Edit: shit, I thought this was the other comment about Texas towns arresting people trying to get abortions just as they were driving through.
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  Texas should start dusting off their pride flags if they are discouraging men and women from having sex, lmao.
  (Not how sexuality works, of course, but it makes me chuckle at the amazing irony of the situation, particularly in light of conspiracy theories like the great replacement and all that nonsense.)
- so... women?
- traaaaaaaaaannnnnnns
Meanwhile in America red state boarder towns (boarder to blue or another country.) are making laws to stop every women traveling towards an abortion state.
https://abc13.com/texas-abortion-law-highways-new-battleground-in-care-what-is-the/13740276/
That's right, straight up Handmaid's Tale shit!
"Under his eye."
- God, I'm so glad I moved out of a shithole state before things went completely off the rails.
  At some point, I'm sure people will get tired of constant butthole inspections in these states and will go back to being chill and telling their lazy-ass politicians to focus on stuff that actually matters, instead of whatever distraction this is.
- Would love if the federal govt just removes roads and highway funding to states that allow or do not stop this from occurring. The federal interstate program should be just that.
- I'm aware of the recent developments in that regard, jfc the whole thing is so fucked up. That and the human trafficking of immigrants to other states. What the fuck is wrong with those states?
- How would they even know?
Did y'all know that Mexico also has a form of universal healthcare. Pretty soon the flow of illegal immigrants might start going the other way.
- Lot of folks hop the border for a bit for the far cheaper dental care down there.
  
  I've heard of a lot of people doing this. Pretty bad when driving to an entire other country for dental care is cheaper.
- There is already a good amount of medical tourism to Mexico from the US.
  
  Like how Utahans were buying insulin from Mexico because it was something like 1/100 the price.
- That said, the entire mexican public health service system is absolute shit, so much so that the president acknowleged it as recently a last year.
  
  so much so that the president acknowleged it
  Acknowledging it is the first step to improving it. We have Republicans who have the gall to claim that we have the best healthcare in the world.
  
  Actually... No
  The facilities could use some work, yeah, red tape and waiting times are terrible, for sure, medicines availability, thanks for this president have been inconsistent as of late, yes
  But.. thanks to the perks offered in the job, many of the best doctors and surgeons treat there, the ones that treat also in the expensive hospital are treating in the IMSS (name of the service), so yeah, great surgeons for free if you are willing to go through the long bureaucratic process.
Ah.
So white ladies are going to start fleeing across the border to get abortions that they can't get in the States.
Conservatives really ARE trying to bring us back to the 1950s, aren't they?
- Let them bring back the 1950s tax rate first
- I mean, that's kind of their whole shtick lol
- In Europe we are back to the 1920s, so the great depression and another world war are still to come. You should be glad they are trying to bring you only as back as 1950s 🤣🤣🤣
  
  How is Europe back to 1920s?
Now we're gonna pay for the wall to keep us in!
- That's quite the Uno reverse they pulled. Makes sense they'd be great at Uno.
  
  Reverse psychology!
- The technical term is 'Anti-Fascist Protection Rampart'.
Wow, Mexican women have more rights than American women. Plus they also have universal healthcare.
- Unfortunately that healthcare is shitty and way over capacity. But still, at least we have something we can improve, instead of just nothing at all.
  
  Can you describe that? I feel like everyone says that about Canada, Europe, etc. But when I try to nail down what they are afraid of, they are like, "if I need a knee surgery I want it NOW! That could take months in Canada!"
  Is it like that, or are there like actual life threatening problems being unaddressed?
- The land of the free.
  
  Freedom isn't free, it costs folks like you and me...
if only they still controlled texas
- As a Mexican, no thank you, its yours now.
  
  Lmao can't agree more
  
  California returning to Mexico would be a good thing for the US
tfw Mexico becomes more desirable than the USA in the future
- Some states in Mexico than some states in the USA quite possibly.
  
  Fuck I should've learned Spanish
Good for Mexico, that's awesome! Too bad the U.S. is such a fucking backwards excuse of a country.
What is the best way to leave The United States?
- You can't, trump walled you in.
- Generally, physically.
  Spiritually is okay as a stopgap solution, say while completely stoned out of your mind, but physically and permanently is what I would advise to actually improve your standard of living. Depending on your language skills and which languages you already know, good possible destinations include:
  Canada
  Ireland
  Germany
  Norway
  Sweden (Norwegian language is probably easier for an american though, tbh)
  If in dire straits you could also go to the UK. Especially Scotland is a really beautiful place, but keep in mind as a country UK is quite, well, fucked. It's still a good destination, but if you're moving, might as well do better.
  
  I would take Sweden out of that, that country is a sinking ship right now. Go to Norway or Finland instead.
... wrote on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter,
It's amazing how many times online and on TV I hear people phrase things just like this.
No one is just calling "X", X.
- Xitter.
  
  This is great, considering in Chinese Xi sounds like shi
- I've been interpreting it like "the artist formerly known as Prince"
- It's like when Prince became "the artist formerly known as Prince"...
  
  "The artist formerly known as Twitter"
  
  In that case it's because he chose an unpronounceable symbol as his name. X is just stupid.
Just call it twitter. Lonnie doesn't respect name changes for Trans people. Don't respect his company's name change.
It'd be fun to keep a tracker of how many conservatives clutch their pearls with this decision and then go vacation in Mexico on the beach. Remember, your taxes being used for abortions is evil, but willingly spending your money in Mexico and paying for abortions there is a-okay!
- Lmao while you're at it, maybe Mexico is playing 4D chess and abortions become a source of income as a tourist service
  #/s
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The supreme court wrote on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, that it had decided that “the legal system that criminalized abortion in the Federal Penal Code is unconstitutional, [because] it violates the human rights of women and people with the ability to gestate.”
The court’s sweeping decision on Wednesday comes amid a trend in Latin America of loosening restrictions on abortion, even as access has been limited in parts of the United States.
GIRE, a reproductive rights organization based in Mexico City, said the court decided that the portion of the federal penal code that criminalized abortion no longer has any effect.
Across Latin America, countries have made moves to lift abortion restrictions in recent years, often referred to as a “green wave”.
After decades of work by feminist activists across the region, the wave picked up speed in Argentina, which in 2020 legalized the procedure.
Many organizers worry, however, that the lifting of restrictions may not translate to expanded access in highly conservative and religious countries.
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Mexico to reap millions on US abortion tourists.
You ladies ever been to Mexico?
- "you boys like MexICOO?! Whooooooo!"
  Does burn out donut, in cop car
All the ignorant [American] ass wipes that bemoan and slander Mexico: They're more progressive than the USA. I know that scares the republican snowflakes. I'm glad women's rights matter more in some areas. It should have always been about all human rights, but I'll stop being nieve now.
When God closes a door, he opens a window.
Seems like big government overreach. Next thing you know they’ll be forcing everybody to have an abortion. That’s probably why so many people are fleeing that country to come here where we have the freedom to let states decide.
- This is a parody account, I take it? Poe's Law strikes again.
- Why would a state - any state - have anything to do with letting a woman control her body?
  
  Because bodily autonomy is a complete farce? Society can force conscious action and everyone cheers and thinks it's grand (because it is), but saying that you can't take certain actions is abominable merely because it has a slightly different psychological effect.
  Controlling people's actions is literally a core function of society. Taxation, or even contracts are all vastly more extreme violations of bodily autonomy than a state simply prohibiting a conscious choice.
  
  Because not letting the state choose means the federal government is telling the state what to do and that’s big government overreach
- How very authoritarian of you, shrew...

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