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Israel’s war in Gaza amounts to genocide, Amnesty International report finds

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8mo ago

Israel’s war in Gaza amounts to genocide, Amnesty International report finds

www.theguardian.com /world/2024/dec/05/israels-war-in-gaza-amounts-to-genocide-amnesty-international-report-finds

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I mean, maybe, just maybe, a year-long violent retalitation for a single event on a single day might just be overkill and run afoul of the idea of "self defense."
This isn't even an eye for an eye.
This is like Israel lost an eye so they bombed a fucking schoolbus of children in response... every day... for a year.
Seriously, it's been clearly a sociopathic genocide since easily the end of the first month of the campaign against Gaza. We've had 13 more months since then, I think it's pretty fucking clear.
- Quite reminiscent of 9/11, isn't it?
  
  Oh yeah.
  https://foreignpolicy.com/2008/04/16/quotable-netanyahu-says-israel-benefitted-from-911/
  The Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv on Wednesday reported that Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan university that the September 11, 2001 terror attacks had been beneficial for Israel.
  "We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," Ma’ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor."
- As much as I agree that it's an overreaction it's not really just one event at issue here.
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hamas_attacks
  
  Yeah it is a many decades long issue of Israel literally pushing over Palestinians houses with bulldozers to expand their territory, beating and sometimes killing the owners of the houses, then calling it "settling". Then Palestinians being radicalized and carrying out attacks (and terror attacks) against Israel. Then Israel responding with complete ethnic cleansing genocide and teaching their entire country that the Palestinians aren't human and kidnapping torturing them in Nazi-ways.
  It is pretty much exactly the US vs Native Americans of the modern day. Down to the difference in funding, available technology differences, starvation tactics, and genocide. I think the torture tactics have gotten worse though
  
  I wonder why there are so many entries in this page. Definitely not because Palestinians have been the victims of continuous ethnic cleansing since 19 fucking 48.
  
  Gaza has never stopped being under Israeli occupation since 1967. Hamas only exists because of the Apartheid Occupation of Israel and the daily violence that has subjected Palestinians to for generations. Israel has always been the obstacle for peace, and has been the one preventing a ceasefire.
The main allegations in the report are:
The unprecedented scale and magnitude of the military offensive, which has caused death and destruction at a speed and level unmatched in any other 21st-century conflict;
Intent to destroy, after considering and discounting arguments such as Israeli recklessness and callous disregard for civilian life in the pursuit of Hamas;
Killing and causing serious bodily or mental harm in repeated direct attacks on civilians and civilian infrastructure, or deliberately indiscriminate attacks; and
Inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about physical destruction, such as destroying medical infrastructure, the obstruction of aid, and repeated use of arbitrary and sweeping “evacuation orders” for 90% of the population to unsuitable areas.
- These are not allegations, these are facts.
  
  Idk why you're downvoted.
  When someone replies on my comments, I get a notification.
  When I get a notification that I have an error, I will either:
  A) correct myself for me, and any potential readers
  B) talk through it and likely revert back to A
  What's going on here bud? Are you starting your own New York Times?
They should keep the tagline, but the article below it should just read:
NO SHIT
@uniquethrowagay@feddit.org And nothing is going to happen. Just add it to the list in wiki.
Yes we notice them more now, but are we really caring, when no one is stepping in to stop genocides?
"amounts to" meaning what exactly
- I think that in this context it means that they acknowledge that they are not the ones who decide whether it is or isn’t genocide but in their opinion it does meet the necessary criteria.
  
  Deciding that facts are facts is not up to anyone. It's an agreement we all take part in when we converse.
  Genocide is very very clearly defined, and this offensive is very very clearly documented. This is not opinion. This is not going to wait for myself, you, or OP, or any of our feelings.
  This is genocide. That's it. The fact that we are still talking about this in this way is insane. We're a year deep into .....
  I'm gonna let the kids at home fill in the blanks.
  Spoiler, it's textbook genocide.
- It means they believe the evidence they have is sufficient to show that it is genocide when considered together.
  What's confusing you here?

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