8mo ago

Trump reportedly plans to swiftly eject trans troops within days of inauguration

www.independent.co.uk

Summary

Donald Trump plans to ban transgender individuals from military service shortly after his inauguration, reversing President Biden’s 2021 policy and expelling about 15,000 serving trans troops.

Critics, including advocacy groups and military experts, warn this move will exacerbate recruitment and retention challenges, harm unit cohesion, and create skill gaps amid existing shortfalls.

The order aligns with Trump’s broader anti-trans agenda, which includes banning gender-affirming care and restricting trans rights nationwide.

Legal challenges are anticipated as the military faces administrative and operational disruptions.

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These people care way too much about others people’s genitalia.
- Seriously, pretty much all people I‘ve met who are offended by LGBTQ people have either suppressed desires or are really insecure about their own sexuality in some way.
  It’s like that Hungarian minister who constantly attacked gay people until he was found by police at an illegal gay orgy in Brussels (illegal since it was during Covid lockdowns).
  
  Let's not overshadow the fact that people DO hate us just because they need someone to hate, or because their religion says to, or because their politics says to. Trying to pretty it up or make it "less bad" because they're all secretly gay doesn't help.
  
  There's also some women that were so traumatised by experience with men that they are afraid trans women will attack women, and creeps will claim they are trans to elude punishment. I think this is a real problem, but much rarer than it may seem, and it's not a good enough reason to say that trans women don't/shouldn't exist. Maybe it's because I'm too privileged to understand
- Yea, it's a pretty weird obsession
This motherfucker wouldn't know what it was to serve your country.
- He knows exactly how to serve his country. On a platter.
  
  "To Serve Man"
Private Bone Spurs is the Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. military for a second time now.
And I guarantee you if you asked a lot of the older MAGA what they thought of Bill Clinton, "draft dodger" would come up eventually.
- They would tell you that Clinton was a coward, but God Emperor Trump is just a smart man.
I got out in 2017 partially because I'm trans and Trump was coming into the oval office. He had made it clear that trans people would not be welcome in his military, and I wasn't going to risk being discharged because of President Bone Spurs.
The military held him off last time, but I'm not as hopeful this time. And I just wanted to throw out there: I personally believe the GOP is going to use federal funding to essentially strip LGBTQ+ people of their rights and healthcare access. It's going to be the Minimum Federal Drinking Age Act of 1984 again, where the fed is gonna say, "Sure, you can offer gender affirming care in your state... If you do, you won't have access to XYZ federal funding anymore."
And the states will let it happen.
- For anyone with any doubt about OP's comment, here's the current landscape for specifically anti-trans bills:
  https://translegislation.com/
  668 bills considered just this year. 1200 in the past two years. 84 national bills proposed this year. Tell me any minority in the history of the earth that has had this much legislation levied against them.
  Next year the Republicans will be able to pass these bills carte blanche. It's looking bleak out there y'all
- Who is the Mother's Against Drink Driving in this analogy?
  
  "Moms for Liberty", I guess?
  
  The GOP.
They want to deport the Mexicans, ban the Muslims, kick out the trans and (ultimately) the gays... they want anyone who isn't a complaint WASP to be banished from society. They think they can do it all themselves. But they're going to find out real quick that they can't.
- and when they find out they can’t, they’ll cry foul and claim they were sabotaged
- They want to deport the Mexicans, ban the Muslims, kick out the trans and (ultimately) the gays…
  It's gonna be great watching centrists pretend that they didn't just spend the election cycle moving to the right on immigration, supporting an ongoing genocide in Gaza, and parroting right wing hate against trans people in their own campaign ads.
  They think they can do it all themselves.
  If Democrats' actions of the past months are anything to go on, Republicans won't have to do it all themselves. They'll have help from Democrats.
- I still remember the labor shortage from all the deportations when they found out they need immigrants to do the work no one wants to do. They never seem to learn
- Don't forget turning women into breeding machines that legally belong to their husbands.
  
  Yeah, in the future when the economy is hurting from a lack of population growth, it will be because the white women aren’t popping out enough babies and definitely not because the Republican hate machine threw out or killed millions of people who were already contributing to society.
I just don't get it. Trans people can pull a trigger as well as anyone else. This is just hatred.
- This is just hatred
  Yes, this is indeed America.
  Every 2 years since Reagan, we get a vote for either Greed(D), or Greed+Hatred(R).
  Greed+Hatred won this cycle. Not getting hatred as a result would be the confusing thing. A welcome confusing thing, but confusing nonetheless.
Hey! Let's send over 10k of the people we trained how to use weapons professionally home in a clearly discriminatory manner instead of letting them keep their jobs. That will do wonders for political stability.
I am curious when he is going to start placing them in concentration camps along with all the other people that have spoken out against the glorious leader.
This is less to do with the perceived quality of trans troops and more to do with making sure that the the current target of the boot doesn't know how to fight back.
Hate sells and America is buying
Hopefully the discharge is honorable and their service helps them get a good civilian job where they are happy and accepted
- We'll be lucky if they get a dishonorable discharge, because the way the GOP stands now... a firing squad isn't out of the question.
  I am disgusted by the world.
  Fuck you Mace, Fuck you Elon, and FUCK YOU everyone who voted for Trump and signing my death warrant.
  
  Elon ESPECIALLY hates trans people because his own trans kid disowned him
Goodbye naval intelligence
Regret joining the marines? Just wear a dress!
- It didn't work for Corporal Klinger.
It's gonna be just like the "good" old days, where bigotry is both accepted and the norm.
I'm just waiting for them to change hate crime to act of morality, claiming it's just upholding good Christian values.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. 🤮
If you know anyone who is currently in the military, tell them they need to get their disability rating ASAP.
- Don't worry the incoming administration has gone on record numerous times about cracking down on veteran disability.......
  
  Yep! Told my family that once they strip me of my disability, I will be priced-out of society: I won't be able to afford my house anymore, I won't be able to afford my bills, and I will likely lose everything. And I'll likely have nothing to live for.
  They tell me I'm overreacting and that there are "checks and balances" in place to prevent them from doing that stuff. I just point at Roe v Wade and they tend to change the subject.
It's so strange how this same action could be attributed to him being an ally or even just a cuck.
"The trans community is a beacon of Hope that must be protected at all costs. Under no circumstances will I allow any trans person to fight or die for our country, as they are the ones our country should be protecting most."
- Relevant
  
  That's exactly it! I knew I was pulling the idea from somewhere but couldn't remember where. Of course it was the Onion.
Don't forget that he is basically a Nazi
He needs to make them seem criminal and inhuman so he can use them as a distraction and scapegoat later, so he can get his fan base to attack them
Probably because the plan is to use the military to deport Trans people after he sates his thirst for deporting POC.
- As a PoC trans immigrant
- does he know he can't deport anyone who wasn't ported? lol
  
  He wants to end birthright citizenship by pushing an ultraconservative interpretation of the 14th amendment through that basically says it only applied to people who were already born when it was ratified, so citizens who were born here can just be rendered stateless and thrown into camps.
Whether it's trans people, gay people, or whatever, this is always going to happen to some population if the government is aware. Maybe not today, maybe not for a couple decades, but eventually. All you can do is hope to outlive it happening.
In the future it's going to be about your genetic data that people have been freely sharing.
15,000? Is that density of trans people comparable to the density outside the Army?
- Yeah.
  According to this site: https://usafacts.org/articles/what-percentage-of-the-us-population-is-transgender/ about 1.14% of the US is trans.
  And according to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces there's about 1.328 million active duty armed forces in the US.
  1.14% of 1.328 million would be 15,139, so 15,000 is pretty much exactly in line with the typical stats. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it is in fact an estimate based on such data, rather than there being a survey ready-to-go which identifies how many such service members there are.
  
  Makes total sense as an estimation. Thank you for the insight.
The ways things are trending he may, quite inadvertently, save their lives in doing so. This is a sad epoch we are living in.
To be honest they have a history of switching sides... just a joke I heard take it easy! I dont know how I feel about this, I think it should be like anything else. Can you do the job well? if so then you belong in the military.
- You mean fair and antidiscriminatory?
  
  I believe that the focus should be on an individual's capabilities and qualifications for the job, regardless of race, size, or color. What matters most is their ability to perform effectively

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