Mexico says, ‘No way,’ as Trump, others vow to send U.S. military to fight cartels
Mexico says, ‘No way,’ as Trump, others vow to send U.S. military to fight cartels
JFC, I do not understand what is with these Republican Politicians and their hard-on for sending our military into Mexico. It would make the situation 100 times worse in every imaginable way.
Fascists love starting wars.
They're a great way to silence critics and boost support through "us vs them patriotism". They're the perfect distraction from domestic issues and an excuse for consolidating power. They're also great for making a boatload of money.
Remember that time we invaded Mexico and took almost half their country? I think the republicans just want the rest to complete their collection.
They don't seem to remember the last time we invaded, bungled around for a while and left without accomplishing anything, which is what this will turn out to be.
Iraq and Afghanistan are over, need a new war. But we can't afford to help Ukraine against Russia, oh no, not that, an actual bad state, too expensive. I swear the cognitive dissonance is unreal.
Some people grew up reading way too much Tom Clancy but some of us have an easier time telling military fantasy from reality. What's next? Sending the Swiss Guard to secure Israel/Palestine (yes, TC suggested this in a book).
The clincher is, as much as people fear and hate our own gangs and cartels, as despicable as some of the activity is, most regular people trust them way more than military and police at home. Anything but focus on that we made the mess, have only ourselves to blame. Yes this is a broad, sweeping statement with plenty of exceptions, and it’s also the bottom line.
I believe that's called an "invasion".
It is, however, not surprising.
Gee, I wonder why that might be...
US will start focusing on reigniting America's Backyard policy.
If it wasn't for 9/11 and the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, the US would have probably invaded Venezuela to remove Chavez and destroy the revolution to get their oil. They've already started drumming up Latin America as the next warzone again. We'll be seeing the entire region further destabilized more than it already is.
I wouldn't trust us either.
This is border caravan 2.0 and will be the topic du jour for the election cycle.
Mexican news coming soon: ¡Gringos planean enviar caravana militar a México!
last time they let someone in the Conquistadors came the Aztec went bye bye
No, last time they let someone in it was the US going after Poncho Villa, and then the whole Mexican American war happened
Same actors this time, and same excuses
Pancho Villa attacked US border towns in 1916 which prompted general John J Pershing to launch an unsuccessful expeditionary force to capture or kill him. The Mexican American War happened in 1846 to 1848 which was before his time. I think you might be referring to the Mexican Border War that was part of the bigger Mexican Revolution going on at the time. Either way I doubt Mexico would allow another military incursion from the north this time around.
We could easily overpower them, let’s just take Mexico. On top of that let’s just grab Canada and then just take all of North America except Panama (tax haven)
I think maybe people thought you were being serious haha
These days it can be hard to tell.
I picked up on the fairly obvious sarcasm and don't think you deserve the downvotes.
If we take Mexico, then all Mexicans will become legal US residents.
Immigration Problem solved.
That would be priceless irony for all of those "build a wall" ass hats.
I say we just deport them anyway after we take Mexico so that we can still use the immigration issues for political… stuff
They don't want to take Mexico, just occupy it.
We could easily overpower them ... On top of that let’s just grab Canada
Refresh me, how did that work out last time?
We already essentially own the important part of Panama anyway.
Yes, plus how else can we evade taxes?
own
Occupy
Mexico open borders if they try.
TBH, we should just be droniing the people in charge without permission anyway. What's Mexico going to do, attack us?
They could just cutoff exports and watch inflation go insane and the automotive industry grind to a halt. The line between cartel and government gets blurrier by the day, so attacking the cartels in a way is attacking Mexico.
You could argue the cartels do more to help the average person than the government.
What line? These are the people who made basic survival a zero sum game, instead of realizing there’s plenty to share if, you know, we didn’t waste billions on stupid stuff so the right people could have everything.
Good! Hurt corporations and force them to bring those jobs back to the US or go bankrupt. At this point I think we should just rip the band-aid off.
"Poor mexico, So far from God, So close to the United States."
Porfirio Diaz, former president/dictator of Mexico, in reference to ideas like this.
We should worry about cleaning up our own mess at home and letting others attempt to clean up the messes we made in their countries, because we certainly make things worse with each interference.
attack us
Hopefully
I remember Mexico pleading for US to legalize marijuana, as these cartels only exist to capitalize on the US market for illegal drugs
But then how would the DEA justify their ridiculous budget?
See that's just small thinking. DEA gets tons of money to bust folks so that they can be arrested and made to work for free. That's why there's so much pumping drugs into communities either via the CIA or the more recent vogue method of making heroin a prescription drug that some family can profit off of.
The entire point of NOT helping drug abusers is so that we can maintain a steady stream of slave labor. Because we still haven't figured out how to do this whole society thing without a bunch of people in forced labor, or as some lawmakers like to say to make sound nicer, penal labor.
That's the entire point of the Prison-Industries Act of 1979. It's explicitly to create a legal slave labor under the 13th amendment so that states can have various industries be mostly worked by slave labor. When you make something that is a chemical addiction illegal, you create assurances for prisoners that will be in your slave labor. When you deny help for that chemical addiction and put the onus onto the users ("Well I guess you shouldn't have gotten addicted to a drug your doctor prescribed to you!") you've basically created a system that absolutely assures people will be finding their way back under your whip.
I cannot stress this enough, the United States is NOT interested in actually stopping drug abuse because we've woven that deeply into our very way of life. There are too many core things of modern society that rely on slave labor in this country. Anyone trying to "fix it" would unravel all of that. I mean SHIT, some rich white guy MIGHT not be able to buy their second yacht! Is this the society we want?
But seriously for a second, the US has a very messed up take on how to handle those who need help for drug addiction. And it is in ways that if we all had a better perspective on it, we'd be ashamed that we're still living like we're in the 1700s. The whole Sackler family, they didn't get away with it for so long just because the Government was sleeping at the wheel. They got away with it for so long because it was beneficial for a lot of people, one of them the prison industry. This country will look the other way on some serious shady shit as long as it drives a profit. The Housing market crash, opioid epidemic, climate change, and so on. Anyone want to count on one hand how many people have faced prison for those things? Our country is way more fucked up than just some law enforcement budget, but yeah, 100% and more what you said.
Fentanyl?
There will still be a black market to crack down on. Those cartels won't just say "oh I guess that's it".
It's not like the US learned a lesson during the alcohol prohibition.