O2 deploys AI granny against scammers • The Register
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O2 deploys AI granny against scammers
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"Daisy" is claimed to be indistinguishable from a real person, fooling scammers into thinking they've found perfect prey thanks to its ability to engage in "human-like" rambling chat, the biz claims.
lmao okay. This will work for maybe a week, and then they will smarten up
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Watching Kitboga videos, they do not smarten up.
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I'm guessing he selects scammers for maximum enjoyment and doesn't randomly sample. I imagine there are plenty of smart scammers out there.
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They do not be oversmart
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I've watched an 18 minute video of an Indian scammer talking to an answering machine randomly repeating one of like 10 pre-recorded voice lines. This one is most likely much better and will steal hours of their time.
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Lmao, you've never heard of Lennybot.
Scammers are stupider than you could ever imagine.
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Idk, elderly are prone to rambling on and sometimes not making much sense. Perfect use of AI if you ask me.
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I’m not sure. Sometimes I feel like talking to my almost 80 year old mother is sorta like talking to chatGPT.
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Sir, after the latest round of training to the new LLM it hallucinates all the time talking about nonsense that never happened, and every time you ask it any questions, It gets preoccupied with the first answer it comes up with and won't take any more input.
Wait I have an idea....
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Lenny did this without AI over a decade ago.
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Yes, yes, yes
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The Grandma-Honeypot LOL
But I don't believe in it. If I were the scammer, I would have maybe 2 or 3 of these lengthy talks with "her", but afterwards I would recognize her and of course avoid her anytime.
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Until they change the name and voice and have a whole fleet of elderly AI chatbots.
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Nah, u gotta remember that they call from loud call centers with a shitty headset. Not that easy to pick up details in the voice
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Once again, one of the very rare few areas where ai isn't a completely shitty solution: tasks that are worthwhile and important, but that require labor no one is willing to pay for.
Others include translation, transcription, and image descriptions. Things people won't put resources into but that should happen anyway
The only problem is that these have nothing to do with why massive companies are investing in this tech. If AI didn't enable the equivalent of money laundering for intellectual labor, the billionaires wouldn't give a shit
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I remember when this started years ago (in the before AI times): Jolly Roger Telephone.
Seems now they are using AI too.
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Ok that's actually pretty funny
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This is obviously funny, but I think the end result will be a bit sad. Spammers will (or already are) start to use similar AI programs to cold call people, then transfer to the scammer if they've got a live one. Eventually we're just going to be heating the Earth so that invisible chatbots can have conversations no human will ever hear.
I'm just going to start not answering the phone unless it's a number in my contacts. If it's important they can leave me a message.
The scammers can spoof any number, including one of your contacts.
If you're on Android, you can automate that with this app (available on F-Droid):
https://github.com/x13a/Silence
It also includes options to allow numbers you've contacted by phone or text, even if they're not in your contacts, e.g. the doctor's office.
I've always done that. If it's not a contact, I let it go to voicemail. If it was actually important, they leave a message.
What has worked for me quite well over the last few years was answering the phone without saying anything. Spammers usually are dead silent as it's just a voice recognition bot waiting for a "hello" or similar and hang up within a couple of seconds if nothing is said. Regular people have "static" most of the time. I've had a few recruiters call while having their mic on mute, but they start talking themselves fairly quickly.
Scammers already are using AI. In every awful way. Like using real-time face changers in video calls in pig butchering scams.
Eh, depends on if the spammer's AI can detect the chatbot AI consistently.
Or vice versa. It will be a cold war of ai's creating unheard conversations and shitting out CO2, all backed by mutually opposing multi billion dollar industries.
But just think of the PROFIT to be made selling the AI before the world burns from it!
That's the permanent arms race between attack and defense: Every time the defender comes up with a way to protect themselves, the attackers go find a new way to deal with that defense. Unless some superior force makes the attackers sit down and shut up, or the cost of attacking becomes greater than the return on investment.