Special counsel Jack Smith and his team to resign before Trump takes office

Yup.

You can kiss Trump ever seeing consequences for his crimes goodbye.

Welcome to the new America.

Elections have consequences and Americans are simply too stupid to maintain a democracy. So we won't have one much longer.

Trump didn't see any consequences in the old America either.
A couple of people gave it a shot.
Relevant username is relevant.
Not happening at all, but the only hope for accountability is a massive blue wave in 2026 followed by an immediate impeachment. Even then that's just early retirement.
- We are well and truly fucked.
- Yeah that's it, the third impeachment will definitely do it!
- but the only hope for accountability is a massive blue wave in 2026
  So there is no hope.
Elections did have consequences. Going forward? Not likely
I don't think that's it. Citizens of the USA don't care about Trump's felonies at all, that does not affect anyone's day to day life (except Trump). USA citizens are looking at bills and expenses that didn't get better with Biden, and Harris was essentially the same candidate. The hope is maybe Trump will try something different to help.
- trRump isn't going to help anyone but himself.
- Yes, a majority of US citizens are dumb. The average American experienced 3 years of retaliatory price gouging that was mislabeled as “inflation.”
  Why was there retaliatory price gouging? Punishment for not voting in Trump in 2020. Big business wants more de-regulation; so the next time the vote doesn’t go in their favor they can do it again.
  What enables them to do it again? Republican policy.
  We’re in a vicious cycle of stupid now, which again, was by design.
- !remindme in 1 year when the effects of mass deporting low income agriculture workers and slapping tariffs across the board kick in and people are hurting even worse. our big beefy boy will have done dick about it and people will revert back to hating him yet again.
  the average American voter doesn't have the attention span to even remember covid or how Trump botched the response and helped kill a million Americans, much less the awareness to understand how badly the pandemic broke supply chains and thus the global economy, nor how the Biden admin still helped us fare better than the rest of the developed world in recovering from it.
  not that that's the voters' fault. Dems did absolutely fuck all to raise awareness of that for the every man. instead, they barked at people saying the economy has recovered to all time highs (for CEOs), ignoring the actual plight of the working class.
- Biden and Harris did their utmost to dig America out of Trump's first term and the international shit pile of COVID. They were blocked at every turn by retardicans who didn't want them to accomplish anything, even right-wing agenda items like border control, because that might make even idiots like you take notice. Good luck with those lower bills though lol. Chump.
- This is exactly it. A lot of people are struggling. They see less jobs, less pay, meanwhile the rich get richer. They see a system that benefits everybody except them. So Trump comes along and says he's going to fuck up the system. That sounds pretty good. And if he can make a decent excuse that he's been fucked by the system too, people are willing to overlook a lot.
  Plus, let's not forget Harris had very little real message. Obama had a message- hope, change, yes we can. Hillary was as status quo as you can get, and people wants to reform. Kamala's message was basically 'I'm not Trump' but unfortunately that's not good enough to get you elected. Especially not when, before Biden dropped out and she got anointed, she was polling in the single digits.

But why?

Make the fascist fire you.

Because his job will now never be completed
Because this also slightly diminishes the possibility that he’ll be politically prosecuted by the incoming admin - though to be clear, I fully expect the Trump DoJ to make Smith’s life a living hell, and to throw him in jail if they can, and perhaps even execute him if they can figure out how to kangaroo court things to that degree. That is not a joke. This is an entirely serious comment.
- Why have a trial? SCOTUS already ruled President Trump is a king and can kill anyone so long as it's an official act.
  We are entering the beginning stages of fascism people. Hold onto your butts.
- I understand the sentiment, but it will never happen. Killing "Whites", especially whites named "Jack Smith" is bad for optics. Now Letitia James and Fani Willis is another story entirely. If I was either one of them I'd be getting my ass on a plane to someplace with a non-extradition treaty post haste.
Actual reasons from an actual lawyer here https://youtu.be/wFEo9YJjGA0
Tldr; Every other possibility ends in dismissal with prejudice. Dropping it leaves it potentially reviewable in 4 years. It's still highly unlikely anything happens.
- Came here to post this. Legal Eagle breaks it down proper here.
- Thanks for this.
- It will be posthumous at best. That orange leather lump ain't lasting four years, even if he did plan to step down at the end of it.
Because the cause for his appointment no longer exists. The OLC memo regarding the prosecution of sitting Presidents means that Smith's appointment is frustrated at its most basic level of inception.
The Fascists will fire people with firing squads, there's no shame in an act of self preservation when resigning from a job you can't do might keep you alive.
just wait till Jack see's all the new crimes trump is gonna commit, he'll be back in business in a few years
- Dog.... just stop with the copium. It's embarrassing. Trump will never answer for his crimes, period. This should be abundantly clear after 8 years of flopped motions against him.
  No Mueller report, no special council, no hush money case.... is ever going to stop this guy.
  Give up on the idea of justice against this dude and start preparing for his dictatorship.
- The Supreme Court already rules that not only is Trump all but immune from prosecution, but that he can't even be investigated or questioned over it.
  So if Trump were to make a phone call and say "Yes, we're going to sign this into law, and schedule a meeting about that other thing. Oh, and have Tom Hanks killed in a hail of bullets, kthxbye.", the fact that he ordered Tom Hanks killed might be prosecutable. The problem is that even if they know he ordered Tom Hanks killed, they legally can't even ask him about it because it happened during an official phone call.
  Trump could go on a crime spree that would make the Mafia legitimately look like choir boys, and Jack Smith......well, Jack Smith isn't going to be able to do Jack about it.
  January 20, 2025 isn't a swearing in ceremony. It's a coronation.
Because he’s a nazi supporter, and was ineffective on purpose.

Leave it up to moderate liberals to roll over and die. Way to signal his kingship guys, fucking top notch pick, that Merrick Galand. To think this ineffective dipshit was considered for SCOTUS. Literally a direct historical correlation to the rise of Hitler through ineffective and complacent liberalism from the socialist party. I guess when you construct a DOJ that doesn't prosecute billionaires the whole thing short circuits when the tyrant is one.. who could have predicted that except every leftist and historian?

I'd quit too. America was too stupid to not vote trump in again, so why the hell martyr yourself for half a country of clowns when it gains you nothing?
Guess this election really was the nail in the coffin for me regarding how people were so blind and meek regarding Hitler's rise to power. Guess anyone that's not a leftist really does just let it happen, and the left is turned ineffective due to being labeled too extreme
History will think of today's USA the same way we thought about nazi Germany: wondering why nobody just put a bullet through Hitler's skull
We have a socialist party?
- The Republicans sure think so lmao
- No, and neither did Germany.
- I believe they were referring to the German Social Democratic Party, which was in power for a time during the Weimar Republic.

There are rules for us, not them.
I think you should leave
- Lol you said the name of the superb show this clip is from but got down voted by people who got whooshed

The Darkest Brandon move would be to remove the DOJ policy on not investigating sitting Presidents. Many of these cases were clearly not under Presidential Immunity, and some weren't even done while Trump was President. That should have consequences regardless of getting the job back or not.

Darkest Brandon should have Trump [redacted]
- He's an obvious national security threat. Biden could claim immunity since it would be an official act to protect the country.
I still don't understand how this is an official DOJ policy. I always see it referenced as a DOJ memo from the 70s. Who gives a shit about memos? This is supposed to be a country of laws, not 50 year old memos.
But yeah, would love Garland to issue a new memo overturning that policy. Let Trump's first official act be to overturn an existing policy to prevent him from being investigated. Not saying he would even hesitate to do it, just saying I'd like to make it an explicit step he has to take.
- Legal memoranda are not just an interoffice note. They are policy interpretations and internally-governing documents. The memorandum is from the Office of Legal Counsel which is an independent subdepartment — neither Garland or the President himself can overturn the policy.
- That's government for you. If the 50 year old memo is the only thing that talks about it, then that's the basis forever. There's so much stuff like this that there's an actual legal term for ignoring it: Desuetude. But that's usually for things much, much older than that, and they would have been actively ignored for almost as long.
The darkest Brandon would be [redacted]
That doesn't matter if the DOJ is just a rubber-stamp puppet for the president.

Why? Prosecutors dogged Clinton for 8 years.

from the article:
In late October, Trump said in a radio interview that he would immediately fire Smith as special counsel if re-elected. “It’s so easy — I would fire him within two seconds,” Trump said, adding that he got “immunity at the Supreme Court.”
Clinton didn't have a rabid dog in the AG office
- That was back when presidents weren't supposed to interfere with federal prosecutors. Those times no longer apply because most American voters don't care about it.
- Also all 3 branches of government including both chambers of Congress.

I hope Smith made arrangements to hide all the documents related to the case. It's shame the US voters have thrown justice out of 6th floor window.

Alternatively, he could find a judge willing to publish every single one, unredacted.
- If he has access to unredacted docs he can do it himself
I hear that storing sensitive government documents in bathrooms is totally cool and not prosecutable. So he could just do that.

Thanks for all your hard work. Very meaningful.

Not sure if this is serious or sarcastic, but I do think what Smith did was meaningful.

Probably best not to give the Orange Idiot the satisfaction of firing them all. Sure it's a petty victory, but when it's the only victory all your hard work will ever amount to, go for it. The only way Trump will ever be punished is if somehow it becomes legal to punish his heirs/estate after he dies of whatever does him in. Old age or heart disease if I had to place a bet.

The people clearly made their choice and intentions known. It’s a shame.

I dont think republicans picking whos vote gets counted and throwing all the rest away really counts as 'people made their choice'
- Are you suggesting that the difference in results is purely because votes were tossed? Yea voters rolls purged and gerrymandering, but the left didn't show up, and that's why Trump won. He has by all accounts more supporters than Harris did, and they made their choice.
- Elon Musk used Starlink to hack the voting machines, more people need to be talking about this

This is what it looks like when a man has no spine.

Or he is ending the thing so he can leak the evidence to the public instead of having it terminated by trump's folks during his presidency and have to turn it all over to trumps people where it will suddenly stop existing. Smith has always existed several steps ahead, there is reason.
- I wish one of those steps ahead had been a successful prosecution.
- I remember when Meuller was going to be the one to take down Trump, I'm not holding out for a hero

special counsel jack smith is 100% my type. he could fuck me until my asshole was a gaping tent flap

Zaddy energy...
Homie seems like a coward from where I'm sitting.
You worked your entire career to get to this peak and you're going to quit before they fire you?
No dedication. No spine. Mf should be waiting in his office with a loaded handgun for the clown squad to come get him.
- Dude went publicly up against one of the most powerful people in the world and you call him a simp ?
  Go take finish taking your Putin back shot keyboard Gimp.
- No I mean his face and body
  Break my hips daddy
- He did it for a number of good reasons, mainly to leave the opportunity to continue the investigation later. Not a likely outcome at any point, but if they fire him they can also get rid of the case in ways they can't if he resigns.