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Democrats’ commitment to the democracy message could cost them the election

Democrats present a weak front against strongmen opponents and are surprised when they lose voters who don’t trust the Dems to protect them from autocrats

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Democracy is the foundation of this country.
- It should have been, but it wasn't.
  If democracy was overwhelmingly popular, then we wouldn't have gotten the electoral college.
  Or given each state the same number if Senate seats. That used to be "balanced" by the House, but then we froze the number and it's off too.
  We're taught in school that democracy was a foundation of this country, but it's bullshit revisionist history.
  
  I see people say this all the time. It is not revisionist history. This is the American form of democracy. It is what is in the constitution. How much more foundational do you need? Our foundational document defines how our democracy works.
  
  This is wrong and has been debunked many times.
  See for example https://www.thoughtco.com/republic-vs-democracy-4169936 or https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/yes-constitution-democracy/616949/ (archive: https://archive.is/FbuL5 )
  Granted, some specific decisions like the EC could have gone better. But overall, the US is a democracy - specifically a representative democracy.
  In fact, to say otherwise is a major GOP talking point. For example (from the Atlantic article),
  Republicans such as Senator Mike Lee of Utah have taken to reminding the public that “we’re not a democracy.”
  It is quaint that so many Republicans, embracing a president who routinely tramples constitutional norms, have suddenly found their voice in pointing out that, formally, the country is a republic.
  Of course the counter example is a theocratic republic. A living example? The Islamic Republic of Iran.
  Iran citizens living in Iran vote for their President, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024Iranianpresidentialelection#Opinionpollingandforecasts
  They also vote for their version of "member of Congress" (ok so they don't call it Congress), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ElectoraldistrictsofIran & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IslamicConsultativeAssembly#Constituencies
  But while the President of Iran is the head of government there, he's second to the divinely appointed supreme leader, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SupremeLeaderofIran (in practice the SL appoints members to a Guardians Council, who vet approve members of the Assembly of Experts, who reappoint the SL - a bunch of silly layers for the SL to basically elect himself) - so this is a republic where folks technically have their representatives but the power lies elsewhere.
Simply put, Trump lacks the discipline, credibility and knowledge to implement most of the policies he explicitly endorses, let alone those Democrats accuse him of planning. It’s reasonable for voters to question Democrats’ dire warnings based on what they have seen with their own eyes.
Trump is incompetent, but the architects for project 2025 will be the ones implementing the policies. Love how this article completely ignores that connection. This article is garbage.
- The only reason he didn't do more damage his first term is because he didn't appoint enough sycophants.
I mean, it's a logical argument, all except for the fact Trump has been on his knees servicing Vladimir Putin for the past 8 years, whilst Joe Biden has been giving Vlad bloody noses through Ukraine since Russia invaded.
Republicans vote for Trump, who is friends with Tyrants and Autocrats because they're the only people he understands, and respects.
- I am not saying I agree with the article, but I am trying to understand the psychology behind why elections are razor thin even when the Republican candidate is immensely incompetent and unqualified. I think this support is from consistent and strong messaging, which the Dems can lack. Ultimately people want to feel safe against the unknown, economic or otherwise. I am saying the Dems can be stronger about that messaging, I am not saying the Dems need to become autocratic or strongmen.
  
  And I agree with all your points 100%, Democrats do not fight for Democracy with near as much intensity as Republican have fought to destroy it, and there are quite a lot of voters who value the projection of brute strength over diplomatic informed intelligent logical arguments
- That’s not true because a lot of election protection work in the U.S. comes from the Democrats
The problem isn't the democracy bit. It's the enabling racism and genocide, being spineless, and blind trust in institutions and civility bit that could cost them the election.
- Agreed. I also don't quite buy the premise of the article - see https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/28/us/politics/kamala-harris-donald-trump-2024-election.html / https://archive.is/EwIkC for the positive vibes and optimism that Harris's own campaign is seeing by going this route.
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