Xinjiang vs USA subway

"How do you find around the subway?"

Uyghur: "I can either follow the grooves in the floor for blind people or I watch out for the signs that are in Mandarin, English, and my native script!"

American: "I cast daylight and roll 1d20 for perception"

But you see that's bad because it robs the Chinese people of the adventure of exploring their own cities by getting lost in labyrinthian Kafkaesque transit systems thus proving the see see per is ebil! - some paid shill probably

but at what cost

Several billion yuan to the government to build it

Yea, ok, but can you murder mentally ill minorities on Chinas subways and be treated like a hero?

Shhhhhhh stop giving the ASPI ideas.

BUT HAVE YOU SEEN THE LED CAR TUNNEL IN VEGAS? CHECKMATE

Probably about as wide as that tube boyyo comin out of

Thats not fair! The NYC metro has a great tradition of murdering homeless people of color like Jordan Neely.

The metro wouln't be the way it is without it.

That's right, improving the subway system would amount to gentrification and an assault on the American way of life!
- You can't just say gentrification as if the NYC subway were a part of town where poor people live! Oh wait
As well as the Asian-American who was pushed in front of an oncoming train.

A few years ago a Chinese diplomat was tweeting about how there was a terror attack by Uighur extremists at a metro station in a large Chinese city. He explained it like "imagine if someone went to a busy Dallas subway station and started stabbing people."

A bunch of Yankoids responded like: "Hah! Ignorant Chinese just assuming we have a subway in Dallas

Dumb chinese man doesn't know that we shoot each other here, not stab. What are we? Some kind of Englishman?
- actually Americans stab each other more often than the English do.
  America just has more murder than the uk
taps head can't have subway stabbings when there are no subways
- American ingenuity
That's what elementary schools are for
- Colllddd 😂😂 and fucking true 🙁

Pictured: An American teenager waiting for the train in New York

US infrastructure is, like 50 years, behind.

US infrastructure is like 50 years behind where it was in US 50 years ago.
- For most cities true. For NYC, I think present infrastructure is better than the 70s.
And 50 years unmaintained
It’s pretty cool seeing a 10 lane intersection (on each side) and an old people slowly rushing trying to cross half way across the road before it turns green
I have seen train stations built 200 years ago that look significantly better than that

That right one looks like something out of a nuclear apocalypse.

Ugh! Don't you know that that train station is a fake just to trick gullible foreigners?!

New York's real subways are much nastier.

I couldn't believe how rough and run down the NYC subway system was when I visited. At least they have a somewhat adequate number of lines and what not, compared to somewhere like Toronto which has probably 1/6 the size of a subway network a city of its population and wealth should have. Hard to say what is worse.

I figured that the richest city on earth would have good public transport. When I visited for the first time I was shocked to find that there was no aircon, no cell reception, and rats fucking on the platform.
- This is effective infrastructure use. Instead of having to run cell service or wifi in the tunnels just so people can browse porn on their phones, they bring the smut directly to you.

Yeah, when I visited NYC I was in awe just how dilapidated that subway was

The state of the subway system is a really good proxy for how civilized a place is.

Ok nobody panic but the Iroquoian and Algonquian script has been removed from the signage in the New York photo. I don't want to jump to any conclusions or anything but maybe we should keep an eye on that area just to be sure there's no cultural erasure happening. I don't want to be dropping the big G word or anything rash like that but I haven't seen any evidence of the indigenous population practicing their local customs and culture in the area, except in obviously-staged displays.

To be fair, the xinjiang subway is 4 years old. The NY subway is 99 years old.

To be fair, this is the US you’re talking about. It’s a difficult sell to get it to work on infrastructure at all.
I'd love to see the Xinjiang in 95 more years.
- It’s just going to to be this meme reposted.
- I, too, wish I'd still be around to visit the Urumqi Orbital Elevator Station
- This is one of my favorite genres of lib cope. Somehow they have convinced themselves that repairing existing infrastructure is harder than building it new.
It’s 124 years old, and has more stations than any other metro/subway in the world.
Yes, it should be better, but this is not exactly a fair comparison.

Trilingual metro signage? Why don't they just learn English

Genocide deniers btfo

This is clear proof that China genocided shitty public transit
which genocide are we talking about here
- The Uighur genocide of course which is very real. 10,000 mosques were bulldozed to build this train station
- Entropy genocide in China, as seen in OP.

the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

Incidentally, home ownership in China is around 90% today http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2012-05/15/content_15295765.htm

Is that a closed station? For NYC?

nah that's just what NYC subway looks like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHp_qSZmvoI
That’s what the subway stations in many of the poorer Burroughs and underfunded areas look like. On the tip of Manhattan or throughout most of Queen the stations can be beautiful. Full granite and marble, extremely clean, new trains, and so on. Why? Those stations are used mostly by the ultra wealthy.
Fulton Station
World Trade Center Station
- not a single bench in sight, incredible
- hey I know that second one
- World Trade Center Station looks like a set from the Battlestar Galactica reboot.
- That's not entirely fair. Those buildings are the useless luxury malls built around their respective stations; the actual platforms are just as shit and barely functional as the rest of NYC.

I agree that the system is absolute dogshit in NYC, but how do you go about fixing that? Xinjiang had the benefit of being brand new, so there were no existing travelers, and it’s not like you can just close down a station in NYC and say “Oopsie; get fucked everyone who used this line/station, come back in a few weeks/months”.

It’s a lose lose.

it’s not like you can just close down a station
It’s pretty much like that, then like someone else said you provide a bus route between the two stations. It's an inconvenience but has to happen at some time.
For smaller repairs like painting you an paint half of the station while keeping the other half operational, then finish the job some days later.
- It sounds very easy on paper, but that suggestion is just horrifically infeasible. It’s not that it’s an inconvenience, it’s just much more complicated and logistically impossible then how you’re portraying it.
When stations are repaired in Moscow, they are completely closed and some kind of bus route is launched, where you can travel with a metro ticket.
- Good luck getting that to ever happen in the United States. Also buses would be very impractical and near impossible to cover long distances.
  Plus traffic.
  As an edit: I’m not saying that busses are bad or impractical. They’re the best form of short range public transit. I’m saying that buses in the this scenario would be extremely impractical and logistically impossible to implement.
  The people here have never driven through gridlocked rush hour traffic on the Manhattan or Brooklyn bridges, and think that a bus is going to magically make it to its destination without getting stuck for hours or chasing traffic jams on its own.
What? That's exactly what happens. Various stations in Washington DC have been closed, for 6+ months at a time, the past two years, for renovations. They made do with route workaround and shuttles in the meantime. Are you implying stations shouldn't update just because it might cause inconvenience? Safety trumps inconvenience.
- Where did I say that we should update because of inconvenience???
  I’m saying that millions of people every day rely on these stations to get to work, school, stores etc, and it is to far to walk or bike; and many of them cannot afford a cab or Uber, let alone own a car.
  I’m saying that it feels impossible to close down a station without disenfranchising a quite massive amount of people with no other options.
  Also where did I mention safety at all?
  This isn’t an issue of convenience; it’s an issue of “life or death”, “Oops sorry! Can’t get to your job anymore because the nearest station is closed? Tough luck!”
  Also imagine comparing DC to New York lmaoooo
You hire a Chinese railroad contractor, you close it from 1-5am on a Sunday, and then you reopen it and inaugurate the extra Maglev platform that connects it to Rio de Janeiro
- I wish 😔
an impacted pimple on god's ass like fucking hungary can do better than NYC
the cope is just pathetic. infrastructure maintenance/repair is a solved problem.

What are the red circle and arrow supposed to be drawing attention to?

maybe that it's multiple languages?

25 salty downvotes.

South Africa and the old yellow Metrorail trains make New York look like paradise. The new blue Metrorail trains look nice though. We also have the Gautrain which is nice, but is basically a rich people only train service.