Biden says he's concerned 2024 election won't be 'peaceful' after Trump, Vance comments
Biden says he's concerned 2024 election won't be 'peaceful' after Trump, Vance comments
There is zero chance that there is not going to be fairly significant violence from Trump's supporters between November and January.
It will happen, absolutely no matter what.
Either he's going to lose, in which case they're going to engage in retaliatory and/or insurrectionary violence, or he's going to win (or be handed the win by the Supreme Court Rubber-stamping Service), in which case they're going to engage in celebratory, very enthusiastic and likely officially sanctioned violence.
That's it. At this point, there is no third option. Trump, in his pathological narcissism and complete lack of empathy or sound reason, has fostered an atmosphere of anger and hatred, and it's not a question of if it will result in violence and murder, but simply of when and of what specifically will touch it off.
This is why I encourage every other left-wing person I meet to arm themselves, if they have the means. MAGA is already armed to the teeth, so we might as well be. We can't just be sitting ducks.
or he’s going to win (or be handed the win by the Supreme Court Rubber-stamping Service),
I agree with your comment in general and apologize for what may sound like a bit of a flippant reply, but I actually think what would worry me the most is if it it goes to SCOTUS and they somehow do NOT install Trump. I think the super-faithful deep-state-believers would lose their effing minds at that turn of events - this is where I would expect to see the violence ramping up the fastest.
No. That's a way better option than a fascist dictator actually gaining power.
Unfortunately, there's likely some truth to that. In spite of the SC fairly consistently destroying the rule of law to rule on Trump's behalf, if even one time they rule against him, even on just one ruling that's so vividly obvious that the otherwise wholly corrupt and compromised SC can't possibly cobble together an excuse to rule in Trump's favor, that really is likely to touch off more violence quicker than just about anything else.
We need a landslide for Kamala - Enough to scare at least a few republican SC members out of giving the win to the GoP out of fear of lynching when a bunch of states inevitably refuse to certify results
Then we need to be prepared for an actual attack on the government and pissed off Trumpers killing citizens
Can't assume anything but worst case and prepare for it as the GoP is in full Hitler's Nazi Party mode
Let's make it happen
Find how to register to vote for where you are
Find opportunities to volunteer for dems around you and online
Write letters to voters in swing states or in competitive downballot races
I would've imagine the first step is to get a gun or something
I'm not sure you understand what a revolution is. It doesn't involve attempting to work within the existing failed system to try to change the system.
Can’t assume anything but worst case and prepare for it
Stock up for a couple months worth of supplies and food. Ensure you have some alternative ways to heat and cook food. Have some self defense strategies/supplies. It is a good idea to prepare for an emergency anyway. Worst case scenario, you are prepared for a natural disaster or power outage or a strike.
Exactly. I encourage you all the buy a gun, because they all already have them.
We need a landslide for Kamala
Agreed. Kamala had the start of that during/ before the campaign. Like actually great performance. Since/ during the campaign, she's shifted to the right, focusing mostly on how "good she is for business" and touting Republican endorsements. She refused to engage with the uncommitted movement. Before the convention, her trajectory had her heading into the 50-55% zone by election day. That stalled out with her rightwing shift. She's on track to lose this election.
How do you say she’s in track to lose. All the data I’ve seen makes me optimistic.
You don't deserve these down votes.
It's not just that Democrats need to win big to shut the other side up, they need to win big just to overcome their inherent disadvantage in the electoral college.
With Kamala sitting around 2.2% nationally on average, being within the margin of error of the states she needs to win, and her momentum seemingly stalled for the reasons you listed, Democrats should be worried.
As someone who would vote for her, or just about anyone who is not Donald Trump, I hate this.
You've got exceptionally broad powers, King Biden. What are you going to do about it?
Gee, ya think?
He’s even heard reports this Trump guy is a bit mean.
I have an idea, let’s ask Mike Pence 📿
I don't doubt there are lots of contingency planning going on, and it's not always good to make those plans public, but I'd sure feel better knowing there are plans to combat the certain fuckery
Main concern is the "Refuse to certify -> Goes to SC -> SC hands the win to the GoP" type fuckery that could happen. No idea what their plans are for that. Outside of that, I assume there will be a lot of military on standby but not obviously so
Leading up to Jan 6th there were weeks of MAGA's posting openly about their plans across social media, then the day came and it turned out there was zero contingency planning.
The most powerful "intelligence" and surveillance apparatus in history just let it happen... I know this, because I live on the opposite side of the planet, and knew a coup attempt was guaranteed from nothing but reddit links to other social media.
Ya know, I kinda feel the same way, based on specific things said and done by the GOP and their candidates. Well, actually it's more of a thought, or belief, based on factual evidence.
Stochastic terrorism. That's what he and Vance are knowingly exercising. That seems like something that should be dealt with, regardless of the political implications. People have died because of Trumps liberal and deliberate use of this form of communication to his batshit legion.
But then again, nothing makes sense any more. The reality that this race is as close as it is sums it all up, I suppose. To quote NOFX, The idiots are taking over.
Why would they resort to violence after the brutal and crippling wrist slaps the J6ers got?
Surely that was enough to deter anyone from going into extreme fits of political violence!
/s
My greatest fear is that anti-gun liberals don't have the guts to actually resist fascism when push comes to shove.
I think when it comes to gun ownership, democrats have just as many. They just don’t post lewd gun-fetish pics as frequently.
That and democrat gun owners are well aware that there needs to be regulation and enforcement.
The guns in my closet say otherwise.
Vance couldn't even bring himself to say Trump lost. So it is clear there won't be a peaceful transfer of power. No how much respect Dems try to show them.
Time for an official act?
It won’t be. Those mouthbreathers are gonna be in for quite the surprise.
sometimes ya gotta fight for whats right even if youre leaning left.
I know he's old, but he makes sense
The supreme Court says you can just kill them bro
Presidential act
Put the bloated military budget to good use for once.
For once? Are you not familiar with the whole situation in Ukraine?
Five words: I feared for my country
and have a martyr death fueling a potentially even worse successor?
Toss him in prison then. Make it very public, announce that he's being arrested for treason and cuff him at one of his rallies.
But let's be real here, the Supreme Court's ruling only actually applies to the Toupee, since he's the one who put them there.