Tim Walz makes direct appeal to conflicted Muslim voters

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Tim Walz makes direct appeal to conflicted Muslim voters

www.nbcnews.com /politics/2024-election/tim-walz-makes-direct-appeal-conflicted-muslim-voters-rcna173863

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This is how he "makes direct appeal to conflicted Muslim voters"?
But the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute, fundamental necessity for the United States to have the steady leadership there.
Full transcript text of the 1st oct debate
I mean after this muslim Americans should be less conflicted about not voting for the selfadmitted Greater Israel supporters, sure.
- Why are you afraid to use the word "zionist"?
  
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  What? You sure that is answer to my comment?
- Thanks for sharing a link to the transcript. Walz misspoke and conflated Israel for Iran. His response was vague but only asserted the need for steady leadership.
  Vance said he would support a preemptive strike from Israel:
  And we should support our allies wherever they are when they're fighting the bad guys.
  The Jewish Chronicle certainly doesn't think Walz is a Zionist:
  In touch with the anti-Israel segment of the Democratic base, Walz urged a Middle East ceasefire in March. And when 18 per cent of Minnesota Democrats cast protest votes against President Biden over Israel policy, Walz reacted respectfully: “Take them seriously. Their message is clear, that they think this is an intolerable situation and we can do more, and I think the president is hearing that.”
  https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/analysis/tim-walzs-record-on-israel-and-antisemitism-is-deeply-concerning-gpdbj6ut
  
  Walz misspoke and conflated Israel for Iran. His response was vague but only asserted the need for steady leadership
  this is either incredibly naive or intentionally misleading. his response was full support of Israel's expansion as a necessity for US foreign policy.
  ‘Strong record of supporting the U.S.-Israel relationship’: a look at Tim Walz’s votes on Palestine as a member of Congress (15 Aug 2024)
  A review of Tim Walz’s time in Congress from 2007 to 2018 shows he supported multiple Israeli wars on Gaza, rejected the international consensus on the illegality of West Bank settlements, and opposed any unilateral declaration of a Palestinian state.
  Tim Walz: How does Kamala Harris’s VP pick view Israel, Palestine, China? (7 Aug 2024)
  In reality, though, Walz has never diverged from the party line of unconditionally supporting Israel, a position illustrated by his comments earlier this year at an event held by the Jewish Community Relations Council.
  “The ability of Jewish people to self-determine themselves is foundational … The failure to recognise the state of Israel is taking away that self-determination. So it is anti-Semitic,” he said.
  While sitting in Congress from 2007-2019, Walz voted to condemn a United Nations resolution that Israeli settlements in the West Bank were illegal.
  Walz has not spoken publicly on calls to divest from Israeli companies.
  Kamala Harris selects Tim Walz, pro-Israel Minnesota governor, as her running mate (6 Aug 2024)
  He also expressed support for Zionism and said those who do not recognize Israel are antisemitic this June at an event held by the Jewish Community Relations Council of Minnesota and the Dakotas.
  He traveled to Israel on a 2009 diplomatic trip to the Middle East during which he met with both Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Syrian President Bashar al-Asad. He also voted with his party to allocate foreign aid, including to Israel
  
  You blue magas are incredible, they can say anything, do anything and you will still defend them. Ok then but don't pretend that your genocide loving asses are on left of fucking Trump when Trump promise genocide and your liberal darlings not only promise but PARTICIPATE in genocide.
So zero concessions on not committing Genocide. This has to be worse than Trump saying real Jews vote for him. Tim Walz is such a massive piece of shit. Imagine starting the sentence with this propaganda when appealing to Muslims lmao.
The vice president’s working every day to ensure that, to make sure Israel secures itself, the hostages are home,
Reminder that this is the truth about Tim Walz: Anti-war activists in Minnesota: 'Governor Walz has refused to meet Palestinian families'
When they explained to the governor's staff that they had come to discuss "material solutions" with the governor and not merely to narrate "sob stories" about the loss of their loved ones - given that it was now almost a year since the war on Gaza began - the two staffers abruptly got up and returned 15-20 minutes later to inform them the meeting had been cancelled.
- Liberals will project about shills, bots, and astroturfing and then completely unironically make up propaganda about how relatable and family friendly Walz is while conveniently ignoring any discussion about the DNC ticket’s actual politics.
  "The expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute fundamental necessity for the United States..." - a literal unedited quote from Tim Walz, DNC VP nepo baby
- Don't post pictures of text
Muslims around the world are making a direct appeal to you too. Disarm Israel.
Walz's rhetorical strategy: "just accept the Israeli Lebensraum project".
The guy that sent the national guard at George Floyd protesters is not your friend.
What an idiot, directly bombing his chances by going full mask off zionist. Zero concessions. Hope he likes losing the election due to his massive zionist tendencies (and Kamala, Biden, Trump, etc)
- The Democrats riding hard for Israel being a spoiler to the election has been a big concern of mine since the DNC. It's really disappointing to see this, going against the vast majority of their constituents, against international law, against even domestic law, and for what? They've had every opportunity to change course and squandered them all so far. If the Democrats lose this election, it's entirely their own fault for ignoring their base of support.
Libs on Reddit and Lemmy: "Withholding your vote isn't how democracy works. If you don't vote they won't care about you"
- Withholding your vote is synonymous to voting for Trump. Trump does not have a moral compass and only cares about himself. He most certainly does not care how many people die in Gaza or anywhere else.
  In other words, withholding your vote is voting for genocide.
  
  that's not how voting works. if I don't vote for trump is that automatically another vote for harris? they don't take the non-votes and just give them to the candidate you like least. I've always found this stance very silly. Even sillier since American elections aren't decided by the popular vote anyways.
  additionally, withholding your vote is the only way to maintain leverage with politicians, since they do not listen to the policy demands of their constituents. policies that have broad support among the populace (medicare for all, an Israeli arms embargo/ceasefire) are not even a consideration for them. how do you expect them to change if you pledge your support to them anyways? at some point they have to realize that ignoring the demands of their voter base is going to cost them elections, which it should.
  
  Does Harris have a moral compass? Biden? Anyone in Washington? They're all selling guns to Israel
- You should be against genocide.
Wow, what a shit article. It doesn't even include the word Zionist.

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