Police stop more Black drivers, while speed cameras issue unbiased tickets − new study from Chicago
Police stop more Black drivers, while speed cameras issue unbiased tickets − new study from Chicago
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This can be explained by where the cops go versus where the cameras go. Cameras are all over the city and are placed, honestly, to collect as much revenue as possible. Cops tend to concentrate in minority neighborhoods due to a real or perceived need for more cops there.
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Any crime that's punished by a fine is only a punishment for the poor.
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Depends on how the fines work. Check out Finland day-fine system. It's a bit complicated, but essentially the gov't knows how much money you make/what kind of wealth you have, and scales fines according to that. So a person that's in the lowest 10th percentile may only pay a few dollars for a traffic fine, while someone that's in the 99th percentile for income/wealth can end up with a speeding ticket that costs over €100,000.
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Have seen this and do agree with the execution. My frame of reference was the US
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Can we please have neither?
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I am familiar with the problems that come with companies who put up traffic light cameras, fudging the parameters to make it catch much more than the blatant running of lights. We had them in our area and they were later removed for that very reason. We don't have cameras for speeding though, so I'm not aware of problems if they're set for speeders that are well over the limit (so you don't trigger a ticket for 66 in a 65).
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idk, I wish more people understood that the speed limit is a limit, not a target speed.
Going one kph over the limit is illegal and should receive a ticket.
If you have a lead foot, just set your cruise control 10 clicks below the speed limit, or more.
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That only works if you shift the entire populations perception of speed limits. If too small of a percentage adopt this mentality, they become obstacles. People will drive the speed they FEEL safe at, regardless of actual safety. Speed limits do nothing to change that. Better options are making roads that don't feel safe at higher speeds.
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That would be fine and dandy if most speed limits (in the US at least) were assigned intelligently and not just according to the 85th percentile, which just measures how fast people actually drive down the road, and assumes anything in the top 15% is unsafe and should therefore be illegal
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That’s how it works here in Victoria State, with a greater fine for (I think) going 10kph over. TBH though even city streets with rows of shops tend to be 60kph, which is still pretty fast for a populated area.
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Study from the people who make and sell the speed cameras? You mean programmed bias. But you know racism bad.
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These cameras aren't racist enough!
\s or something like that
Don't worry, the cameras that have facial recognition are racist plenty