Muslim Americans moving to Jill Stein in potential blow to Kamala Harris

When u know who posted before clicking.

When u don't care how much people cry about what you post.
- You'd stop posting the minute everyone ignored you. Since you know the stakes of this election though, you know that won't happen.
- When you post articles that use data that is damn near a month out of date. Polls from August 25th? Or is it August 27th? Wasn't that prior to the debate pounding that Harris gave Trump? On top of that where is this data from? What CAIR has posted at first glance does not include geographic breakdowns, so where did that data actually come from?

Everyone constantly down votes you but I appreciate being informed that Jill Stein sucks. 🤷🏻‍♂️

If anything in my post helps you feel better, then I'm happy for you, friend.

Jill Stein doesn’t put in the efforts between presidential elections to promote her party or to get her candidates elected in local, state or federal elections.

She’s not for helping anyone besides herself and a majority of Muslim Americans realize this.

You just get that impression because the media isnt interested in her between elections. She continues having events and talks and doing political work.
- How many people in her party are elected in local, state or federal governments?

I'll allow this article to slide because the title says it all. See you tomorrow SB.

I didn't write the title. I didn't write the article. In fact, it's a Reurters article. So please bring up your issues with them directly. Thank you!
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1.34% of the American population, the third largest religion in the US behind Christianity and Judaism.

I'm also going to point out that voting based on what's happening to people who share your religion in a foreign country is a TERRIBLE idea. If you make that your voting priority, it will bite you in the face in other aspects of your life because someone will exploit you for their own ends. The same is pretty much true for any single issue voter.

We're all free to be stupid, but it probably won't end well.

So I've been thinking, if I was in these folks shoes, what should I be doing?
I think the Uncommitted movement nailed it on the head: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/19/harris-uncommitted-movement-declines-endorse
tldr - the stupid FPTP system in the US means we effectively are stuck between two candidates, GOP and Dem, and of the two, the GOP one would be much much worse. So without endorsing they still recommend voting for the Dem candidate for President - while also voting down the ballot for candidates who better represent their views (and might be able to make the future President listen or at least rein the President in - e.g. enough Dem House Reps might be able to table a future bill to increase arms sales to Israel).
- The most useful thing individuals can do to change or enact specific policy is to get involved in party politics, because the party platforms are decided internally and either becoming a party delegate, or working to garner votes from delegates for particular policies actually works.
The Muslim population in swings states is larger than the margin Biden won in 2020.
- The Muslim population isn't a single voting bloc, and a good chunk are still voting Democrat.
  On the flip side, the Jewish population is almost twice the size of the Muslim population, so pissing them off is probably worse.
- Should be a fun election night!
How about based on whats happening to people that dont share my religion? Because what is happening is so horrific it doesnt matter what group they belong to, it must be stopped.
- When was the last time you posted about the other genocides going on? Do you even know which ones I'm talking about?
  Or are you just following the social context around the Israel-Palestine conflict and ignoring the fact that there are multiple other major genocides occurring right now? One of them has had a few hundred thousand kids forcibly separated from their parents and sent to special boarding schools, the other is at almost a half million deaths, both dwarfing the scale of the Israeli-Palestine conflict by almost an order of magnitude.
  How about them? Where's the university protests? Where's the demands for divestment? You haven't even made a single comment or post about any of them from what I can see.
  Nah, this one is the fad genocide to be all upset about right now.
Any vote for Harris is taking a vote away from a third-party candidate and is giving it to Trump.
- I think you may have got your order muddled up.

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They should withhold their vote for the person contributing to getting their family members killed. When Democrats lose again it will be their own doing, again.

The cult of personality to the point of being willing to overlook genocide is insane

I think there are two key points to remember here:
The GOP guy would endorse much worse policies for these folks than Harris.
While Harris is too far off, pressure can also be exerted by voting for the right Senators, House Reps, and local/state officials. Unlike the GOP guy, we have a better chance of making Harris listen, if the right folks are below her.
Ultimately, I respect everyone's choice in voting and won't pass judgement on doing so. But either way, I believe that the key remains building up the grassroots, as AOC and Ralph Nader have both stated recently.
- This sounds like some of that push him left after the election bullshit we heard from liberals in 2020. The entire US government only responds to the donor class, there is no pushing anyone any direction without money.
That would not be a good play if it results in the person who will get more of their family members killed gaining office.
I think it’s kind of presumptuous to assume that every Muslim has family in Gaza, as well.
- I have no family in Gaza, but I know that the moral conscious thing to do is to prevent the people that are currently killing them, continue killing them. And if they keep getting rewarded for bad behavior, that bad behavior is going to continue to get worse. That's how Democrats have gone from the party of people like Carter to the party of genocide denial, people like Biden and Harris.
Oy, prepare for your downvotes. Because if you aren't voting for Harris, the people here will have it out for you! lol
- Because that’s a vote for Trump in a swing state, not because “they’re angry you’re not a democrat”
- They dont understand how election math works, a vote for Harris is taking a vote away from a third party candidate and is giving it to Trump.