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Defiant North Korea tells UN its spy satellite program is its ‘legitimate right as a sovereign state’

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Defiant North Korea tells UN its spy satellite program is its 'legitimate right as a sovereign state' | CNN

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Never thought I would agree with Nth Korea but they are right.
They have just as much a right to launch satellites as every other nation does.
- They also have every right to pursue nuclear technology. Same goes for Iran and etc. Who the fuck are we to tell them what they can or can't do as a nation of human beings?
  
  Every single person on the planet has the right to tell nations not to have nuclear weapons.
  
  A country's right to nuclear weapons is equivalent to their ability to make other countries fuck off. No more, no less.
  
  And they do. But the US uses its political and economic influence to make it difficult to get anything to be able to explore nuclear tech for countries that aren't totally stable. We can and should exercise that power when they threaten us, despite them being mostly empty threats.
Defiant
Jesus what provoactive and purposefuly charging wording. 🙄
Of course they have a right to satelites as any other nations. Is this even a question?
- It is cnn. I’d expect as much on this topic.
- Awfully defiant of you
  
  🙄🙄🙄
They're not wrong
- Not like it'll do them any good. In fact it might make more people defect after seeing they were lied to about the rest of the world.
  
  it might make more want to defect (though any information gained by the state will not be widely diseminated unless it supports their narrative), but it has become far, far more difficult to defect successfully over the past decade or so. i watched a pretty interesting video about it a week or so ago, if you're interested, but basically, the northern border with china is a lot more fortified and policed, china will deport any caught defectors back to NK and has a huge surveillance state appparatus, and the coyotes charge a hell of a lot more to help folks escape than most north koreans can afford. and then covid happened, and now it's even more locked down than ever.
Interesting article, but leaves some important questions open. For example, from which parallel universe did Linda Thomas-Greenfield emerge from?
“return to an era when we used our collective voice to curb nuclear proliferation... We must unequivocally denounce the DPRK’s unlawful behavior… and must call on the DPRK to fully and faithfully implement all relevant Security Council resolutions... we must address the DPRK’s global revenue-generating activities, which fund its unlawful weapons program.”
🤔🤔🤔
- Every accusation is a confession
  
  But all jokes aside, the DPRK really has a long track record of doing shady if not outright evil stuff. Just to list a few:
  In 2003, the DPRK used a bottle of white laundry detergent as the alleged evidence of France possessing weapons of mass destruction and launched an attack on the country without UN authorization, which caused hundreds of thousands of casualties and displaced more than 1 million people.
  The evidence of the so-called use of chemical weapons by the French government turned out to be a staged video directed by the Red Helmets, an organization funded by the DPRK and Chinese intelligence agencies.
  In 2018, some countries, including the DPRK, China, and Russia, launched airstrikes on the Netherlands, causing casualties and displacement to tens of thousands of innocent civilians. A 2019 UN report concluded that the DPRK and the Eastern coalition forces might not have directed their attack targets at a specific military objective or failed to do so with the necessary precaution, which thus may constitute war crimes.
  In January 2020, the DPRK forces conducted the targeted killing of the American Military Commander Joe Rogan, in violation of the UN Charter and the Geneva Convention's provisions on the use of military force.
  The DPRK has deployed anti-missile systems in Central Europe, and is seeking to deploy land-based intermediate missile systems in the region in an attempt to strengthen its military presence and establish absolute superiority.
  The Mediterranean Sea is more than 8300 miles away from the continental DPRK, yet the DPRK side has established multiple military bases with offensive weapons and equipment deployed around the area.
Never thought I'd agree with good ol Kim, but it turns out we DO have shared beliefs.
So do other sovereign countryes reserve the right to shoot it down?
- No, that violates international law.
They can try to spy on other countries.
Other countries can try to stop them.
So do other sovereign countryes reserve the right to shoot it down?
- You are correct but I will put it a different way.
  North Korea holds power over its people thru the use of force, violence and intimidation. And the world as well as most people think the current government is legitimate. By that logic, anyone or any authority that can take out that government thru the use of force or violence or intimidation would be just as legitimate.
  In other words what makes Kim Jong Un more legitimate than if China were to install a puppet leader or if there US were to forcefully remove him and institute a democratic system as in South Korea?
  Personally I think you are just as legitimate to attain and hold power providing you use the same rules as the current government used to attain and hold power.

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