2y ago

Homeowners oppose street name chosen by iwi, saying the 17-letter name is too long

i.stuff.co.nz /bay-of-plenty/300956914/homeowners-oppose-street-name-chosen-by-iwi-saying-the-17letter-name-is-too-long

I guess they didn’t want people to end up calling it P Road

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The name – meaning “to move swiftly in battle formation like the crab”
We can’t have anything cool in this country. We need more street names like this! I for one would be proud to live on the battle crab street.
- What percentage of NZ could actually pronounce it though? It's an absolute mouthful.
  
  Papa-kanga-horo-horo. Eight syllables, pretty straightforward. My Māori is pretty trash, but after one read of it and a handful of times saying it out loud it's pretty simple.
  My advice to anyone complaining about it is to just say it out loud a few times. I guarantee that by the time you've said it to the moving company, the power company, the insurance company and your mum, you'll have it locked down.
  It also has the added bonus of being completely unique, so there's no chance of your ambulance being dispatched to park terrace on the other side of town while you're choking on park road.
  
  I don't know man. It would just take a couple of tries to get it and then get used to it like pretty much anything new?
  Honestly I've never cared what the name of the street I lived on was or how long it is.
  
  Eh Māori stuff is generally reasonably easy to pronounce, I'd say that having to constantly type it out would be a far bigger issue!
  
  what? it's three different sounds
  
  Get over yourself, we can al do Ngāruawāhia well enough cant we?
  I'm 50 this coming birthday, had little Te Reo at small white town NZ schools, lived in the UK for 1/3 of my adult life, and would have little issue with that as my street address
It’s a cool name, but I agree its too long for a street. Would make a good name for a park or a reserve or something in the area. To me an ideal street name is around 2 or 3 syllables. “Acacia” is a pretty crap name too though, better to pick something with a connection to the land and the people.
They mention they’re arranging a hui so hopefully a decent compromise can come from that.
- Bah, I've been living on "Geschwister-Scholl-Straße" for years and Papakangahorohoro isn't any more complicated really.
  
  Cool, is this in NZ?
- It's a valid point that names for subdivisions can be very unoriginal, the worst is the nautical themed ones, there's just so many.
  
  Having lived in Gulf Harbour I totally agree
  
  Tree-named streets everywhere.
If the people that live there don't want the name then it should be changed. The council consulted the local iwi and got a stupid name about moving in a crab formation, I'm pretty sure we can swap that out for another name without cultural uproar.
- well it's a new subdivision that isn't named yet, the local Iwi were consulted and put forth papakangahorohoro as the traditional name for the land
Can't call it Acacia Avenue because it's not an Avenue? Fine, call it Acacia Lane. Still has a common vowel sound.
- My biggest takeaway from the article was the avenues are supposed to be tree lined. I’m pretty sure there are a bunch of them around that don’t adhere to that naming scheme, although it perhaps depends on the definition of tree lined.
That name is easy enough. I think people are over-reacting. Karangahape Road is fine and with English names not a single person in Wellington pronounces Majoribanks Street the same way (in fact, here are five streets in Wellington that are commonly mispronounced, all of which are English: https://wellington.govt.nz/news-and-events/news-and-information/our-wellington/2021/12/friday-five-street-names-mispronounced)
- Isn't it almost always referred to as K road though?
  
  Not really, there's been a push for people to use its full name and last time I was in Auckland everyone I spoke to did.
How many of you actually did read the name? It's papakangahorohoro road. That's not toooo hard to remember. I already did. papa-kanga + 2x horo. It's not like it's eyjafjallajökull or something like that.
- Or something like Whangaparaoa road clutches pearls.
  Also eyjafjallajökull is just fine if you're Icelandic.
  Ditto every street name in Wales.
  Papakangahorohoro (from memory thank you very much) is easy.
  
  Ditto every street name in Wales.
  You should come to Aberdare, most of our street names are simple English words 🙈
- I mean, you'd get the same reaction if you tried to name a street "eyjafjallajökull St", possibly even more so.
  It's certainly possible to learn, but would you really want to be constantly spelling it out?
  
  You may have typed this message out 50x, but I still don't believe you actually think this.
- What are those atrocities actually in use as street names somewhere around NZ?
  
  How many of those are street names in NZ?
Papa road
- take me home
There are tons of roads in the bay of plenty which are harder to spell and pronounce.
- It's not the actuall name they have a problem with...
  
  Exactly.
I live near a street that's 16 characters long (not including the street type) but it's an Anglo name so I guess that's acceptable.
- Yeah, it's totally not the length they're upset about.
  
  Yeah, it's the fact it's a nightmare to say or spell.
sounds like the crackers should go back to europe if they dont like it
"too long" fuck off street names over 15-letters are the norm where i live
- No one gives a fuck about where you live.
  
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Do we put this thread in the museum? Our first proper instance conflict.
- It's a shame we don't have user flairs, I want to make mine "I got Hexbear defederated".
Get over it crakkkas
- Ummm wtf?
  
  Normally you lose naming privileges when you get succesfully invaded,
  I guess not.
  
  die, fascist.
What a farken mouthful, bugger trying to say that when you need to call an ambulance.
- Did you ever learn 'supercalifragilisticexpialidocious'? Then you can learn something half that length.
  
  Also like let's be real, people are gonna either come up with a snappier name or just keep using the old one
  
  Fuck off, Hexbear troll.
- Even somebody like you could manage I bet.

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