11mo ago

Zelenskyy says Ukraine plans to indefinitely hold Russian territory it has seized

www.nbcnews.com

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It works both ways. If Russia wants to just roll in and take land then Ukraine can do the same.
- People didn't like this take because I was talking about Israel and Palestine, but if you willingly engage in a war, you forfeit your right to your land. This is how it's always worked.
  
  Israel and Palestine is complex and so many hands have been Involved in the size and creation of the state of Israel. Growing the size of Israel through war is not a good idea in my opinion.
  
  as far as how it always worked, it never even required willingly going to war, just loosing. id bet there are no people on earth that haven't been conquered and displaced or assimilated at least a bit. many of them hundreds of times. these no such thing as indigenous/native people or land unless you work with a very short memory or have no history.
  
  Because one is holy land and the other is ass holey land. Idk actually I really stretched to find a joke.
  
  You're describing genocide. That is not what is happening in Kursk.
  See article 49 of the Geneva convention:
  https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/gciv-1949/article-49
  Civilians, by definition, do not "willingly engage in a war".
Historically, that was part of the Ukrainian state and Ukraine is just protecting the minority Ukrainians there from genocide.
- It's a special military operation.
  
  There's Nazi's there, need to be dealt with
Dear Kremlin,
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
- I know it's an old video, but this video from several years ago exposed how weak Russia truly is:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW4I2fPPXFM
  It's absolutely baffling that Putin decided to invade Ukraine considering this context, unless his population was imploding at a dangerous rate and he needed more citizens.
  
  (video) From rapid alcoholism to runaway abortion all of this societal decay seems counterintuitive for a country that's often believed to oppose all matter of degeneracy.
  ... this seems like a sane person
  It's absolutely baffling that Putin decided to invade Ukraine considering this context, unless his population was imploding at a dangerous rate and he needed more citizens.
  All that video about how good Russia is at posturing at America and you're baffled at Russia.. using that to its advantage? They were obviously counting on nato being reluctant to aid Ukraine for the fear of a larger conflict and it was working until that changed couple months ago. And I don't think I need to explain why a war would make a population problem worse..
  Edit: sorry if this sounds too aggressive, I won an imaginary debate before coming across this post
  
  There are a ton of basic errors in this video. It's very amateurish. For example he say alcoholism killed 1/3 of the population not 1/3 deaths are du to alcoholism.
as they should. need that buffer zone.
What is the value in this new area?
- Bargaining chip.
You win some, you lose some.
- It's all the same to me
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